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    Quote Originally Posted by Channel 1 View Post
    A quick scan of YouTube videos will provide a generous amount evidence that the above statement is really an untrue as the majority of the violations posted on YouTube are by those who fly high and far, which the majority of the out of the box RTF's are incapable of doing.

    And such a scan of such videos will also reveal the screen manes of a number of well known operators who wouldn't be caught dead flying a DJI.

    But that is the typical blame game presented by those who actually are at the root of the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smoothvirus View Post
    As if it wasn't complicated enough with Snowden.
    You lump the guy who actually took his oath seriously in with a guy who shoots up a place?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Channel 1 View Post
    Simple because unlike cash, which is king in the drug dealing business, plastic provides traceability, with a card I cannot anonymously register as xjet and then go out and do something criminal and have it trace back to you.

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    wrong. I can go to the mall and buy a prepaid visa card up to $600 and put any info I want when activating the card. No ID, no nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Channel 1 View Post
    A quick scan of YouTube videos will provide a generous amount evidence that the above statement is really an untrue as the majority of the violations posted on YouTube are by those who fly high and far, which the majority of the out of the box RTF's are incapable of doing.

    And such a scan of such videos will also reveal the screen manes of a number of well known operators who wouldn't be caught dead flying a DJI.

    But that is the typical blame game presented by those who actually are at the root of the problem.

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    Once again your arguing just to argue and once again you are way off the mark. The people causing the attention are not those who fly high or far is the guys flying over sporting events and next to airports.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Channel 1 View Post
    A quick scan of YouTube videos will provide a generous amount evidence that the above statement is really an untrue as the majority of the violations posted on YouTube are by those who fly high and far, which the majority of the out of the box RTF's are incapable of doing.

    And such a scan of such videos will also reveal the screen manes of a number of well known operators who wouldn't be caught dead flying a DJI.

    But that is the typical blame game presented by those who actually are at the root of the problem.

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    I have to disagree with this. YouTube videos are, by and large, NOT causing the major public stir and the media circus. It is the morons who go out and buy an RTF Multicopter, call it a "drone" and then go fly it stupidly that are making the majority of the press time. The rest of the press time on the subject is taken up with stories about nutcases attacking both responsible RC fliers and "droners".

    I have said it before and I will say it again: The ONLY THING that will truly put a lid on the "drone" problem in this country is a flat out ban of the sales of all RTF multicopters. Just ban selling them as completed units. Require that they come in a box as loose parts that must be assembled prior to flying. That, right there, will END the problem of "droners" in the US. Of course, the FAA doesn't have the authority to do this, but they could request Congress pass that law.

    It would be difficult, and doubtless many would be upset about it, but it would resolve the issue. No more people treating Multicopters as platforms for other hobbies, no more idiots going out, buying a multicopter and then flying it over the airport that same day. People would HAVE to put in the sweat equity of actually BUILDING their model, and the hobby would become a hobby again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoss View Post
    I'm going to (and you're going to) be looked at like "there's one of those irresponsible drone people flying one of those dangerous things" when you're seen in a field or a park, responsibly going about your business.



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    Quote Originally Posted by JP1 View Post


    Too Late.

    Not where I live or fly, yet. Inevitable? I believe so. I think at this point it's not about dodging the bullet but controlling the bleeding. Relative to the common view shared by the general public after a ton of headline / front page incidents, things are ok right now. I still get a lot of curiosity, "wow"'s and "that's so cool"'s - never heard a negative comment or received a negative look, but a couple jackasses flying into joggers faces or baby carriages at the park will certainly change that in an instant. Lot's of people have yet to form an opinion about "drones", which is a fantastic opportunity... for someone. Usually whoever gets there first. So, either a bunch of FPV'ers can band together and go on a massive public campaign, barging their way into the newsrooms with positive information and examples and demonstrations, as well as warnings about this infiltration that's about to take place by santa and whoever else we lie to our kids about existing, with a bunch of inexperienced "pilots" being gifted a flying set of high speed knives - or the headlines can strike fear into those "undecideds" or "yet to be informed's" about the very bad and dangerous drones that will be peering in your windows and flying at you out of the sky while you casually stroll down the street. Unfortunately, the latter of the two is what is going to happen, so in a sense, yes... it is too late.

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    So whats the deal here? Can we register with just a handle like "Crazy AMA Flyer" and pay cash some way or use a pre paid card? Or just not register? which of the 2 is best?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Channel 1 View Post
    Well for some reason it's not on the FAA's report, if you can prove me incorrect, I would encourage you to do so after all it's all a public record under FOIA.

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    I sent a notice to RMRC about there being several days of submissions missing from the FAA web site including my own. I think their submission system broke. I have my submission receipt to prove it..

    I also used my full contact information and typed out my own well thought out input. There was nothing cookie cutter about what I submitted, yet it never showed up on the public docket.
    Yet I saw all kinds of anonymous submissions show up, so that has nothing to do with it. I just think their shit broke like the healthcare web site did... Since they had already made up their minds, they really did not care anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wearyman View Post
    I have to disagree with this. YouTube videos are, by and large, NOT causing the major public stir and the media circus. It is the morons who go out and buy an RTF Multicopter, call it a "drone" and then go fly it stupidly that are making the majority of the press time. The rest of the press time on the subject is taken up with stories about nutcases attacking both responsible RC fliers and "droners".

    I have said it before and I will say it again: The ONLY THING that will truly put a lid on the "drone" problem in this country is a flat out ban of the sales of all RTF multicopters. Just ban selling them as completed units. Require that they come in a box as loose parts that must be assembled prior to flying. That, right there, will END the problem of "droners" in the US. Of course, the FAA doesn't have the authority to do this, but they could request Congress pass that law.

    It would be difficult, and doubtless many would be upset about it, but it would resolve the issue. No more people treating Multicopters as platforms for other hobbies, no more idiots going out, buying a multicopter and then flying it over the airport that same day. People would HAVE to put in the sweat equity of actually BUILDING their model, and the hobby would become a hobby again.
    I've been running over this idea in my mind for some time now, and for the most part I agree with you. The problems with negative media attention really began when Phantoms began exploding onto the market. No surprise that people with no experience or knowledge of the limitations of such a platform were going out and doing stupid things with them. If you do something dumb and lose it, who cares? Unless they do a forensic analysis on the device (fingerprints, dna, etc) the operator is completely anonymous. Like many of you here, I too started in the hobby when you had to build your own from scratch if you wanted to fly. This forced you to go out and do good research as well as trial and error in order to build a successful platform. Thats no longer the case. That being said, the only issues I see with the idea that every aircraft must be assembled by the end user are:

    1.) Manufacturing companies will use loopholes such as only requiring assembly of a couple parts (ie. put these two halves together and attach the battery and props, because this equals end user construction)
    2.) The end users, who are invariably ignorant of the technical requirements of these aircraft, will assemble them in such a shoddy way as to unwittingly create an even greater potential for damage to persons or property.

    This problem is certainly one that will require many different aspects of a total solution. I rarely see an idea which I would consider a bad idea to a fix if compiled into a total solution. It must be said, of course, that I don't mean ideas that are vastly outside the realms of realistic (ie, require commercial pilots licenses for all UAV use).
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