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    OFFICIAL FAA/AMA DOCUMENTS - sUAV/RPV

    I'm going to start this sticky thread so everyone that wants to read up on the official government stance on small unmanned aircraft have a quick easy place to look. This list is on going and will be updated regularly as I find the docs. I also encourage ANYONE that wants to fly outside of recreation to read these links.. DO NOT rely on me or rumormill for "official" information about commercial uses. Look for youself! You may also want to call Steve Glowacki at the FAA UAPO office...202-385-4898 Sorry Steve! If you take the time to read any of these articles, you will see that the feds do infact consider your model a UAV..

    http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/...%20Systems.pdf

    http://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/uas/

    http://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives...FACT_Sheet.pdf

    http://www.faa.gov/regulations_polic...cumentID/22425

    http://www.tc.faa.gov/logistics/gran...4/04-G-032.pdf

    http://www.modelaircraft.org/files/550.pdf

    http://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/uas/uas_faq/
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    Here is another good doc. to read from the FAA... thanks to Chris for pointing it out...

    http://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/uas/uas_faq/

    Myron

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    http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2013...2012-31500.pdf

    this one is about the upcomming NPRM.. Notice of Proposed Rule Making

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    I might suggest modifying the OP with titles for each of the links. Just so we know what we're headed for.

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    ^ +1, especially since the longer links get truncated
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    Here's the latest: Integration of Civil Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS) in the national airspace system (NAS) roadmap

    Definitely worth a look! One highlight is the section specific to hobbyists on page 73:

    SEC. 336. SPECIAL RULE FOR MODEL AIRCRAFT.
    (a) IN GENERAL.—Notwithstanding any other provision of law relating to the incorporation of unmanned aircraft
    systems into Federal Aviation Administration plans and policies, including this subtitle, the Administrator of
    the Federal Aviation Administration may not promulgate any rule or regulation regarding a model aircraft, or an
    aircraft being developed as a model aircraft, if—
    (1) the aircraft is flown strictly for hobby or recreational use;
    (2) the aircraft is operated in accordance with a community-based set of safety guidelines and within the
    programming of a nationwide community-based organization;
    (3) the aircraft is limited to not more than 55 pounds unless otherwise certified through a design, construction,
    inspection, flight test, and operational safety program administered by a community-based organization;
    (4) the aircraft is operated in a manner that does not interfere with and gives way to any manned aircraft; and
    (5) when flown within 5 miles of an airport, the operator of the aircraft provides the airport operator and
    the airport air traffic control tower (when an air traffic facility is located at the airport) with prior notice of
    the operation (model aircraft operators flying from a permanent location within 5 miles of an airport should
    establish a mutually-agreed upon operating procedure with the airport operator and the airport air traffic
    control tower (when an air traffic facility is located at the airport)).

    Brooks, N7BLD

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    The problem that I see with item (2)... The only one in the US is the AMA.

    There really needs to be a community/nationwide-based FPV specific organization. This will ensure that rules/guidelines are specific to the hobby that we all enjoy.
    When nothing else out there will suit your needs... design and build it yourself.

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    The other larger issue would seem to be their definition of a "Model Aircraft" on page 47:

    "An unmanned aircraft that is capable of sustained flight in the atmosphere; flown within
    visual line-of-sight of the person operating the aircraft and flown for hobby or recreational
    purposes."


    Flying outside of LOS appears to be excluded for model aircraft. The abbreviation "FPV" is defined but is otherwise totally not considered anywhere else in either document.
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    Here are Dec. 2013 AMA Magazine articles that are of public interest. Note:

    - Mention of a discussion with an FCC official involving "noncompliant equipment currently available"
    - MOU between AMA and FAA is "nearly finalized." Interesting how that could occur before the FAA has issued anything indicating the criteria for being a community based organization. Also being drafted is the FAA policy statement that will explain the framework for a CBO. This part was already hinted at in the FAA Roadmap a couple weeks ago.
    - Long article on "FPV: friend or foe?" written by one of the Roswell guys. In the article he mentions the sighting of an (apparent) quadcopter by the Alitalia pilot near JFK and the Bull Run incident. Familiar incidents, but were either of those operations actually FPV?!? Article apparently is intended to bridge the divide but sure seems filled with a lot of fear and anxiety (such as an unexplained reference to "arrest records" for YouTube stunt videos, and the inevitable comparison to "drones" of war).
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    "[The AMA] has created a working group composed of recognized leaders in FPV, to determine how it can best proceed. This group, which includes representatives from across the US, participates in a weekly conference call to help chart the AMA's course on this issue"
    Oh really??? Who would that be? Any of us? Sentry? Trappy? IBCrazy? Are any of you part of this? Because if you're not, I call bullshit on the AMA's statement here. I guess Trappy is automatically disqualified because of the "US" part of that statement.
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