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MAYMIDROIX
27th September 2014, 07:37 PM
Hi everyone,

Here is the new frame that I have been working on. Since last year, I innovated the market with the first option for DJI compatible aluminum arms that provided a solution to improve the performance of multirotors by increasing the length and stiffness of the arms, thus giving better flight performance. I then wanted to develop a full frame around the already successful AIMDROIX arm design. So here is the AIMDROIX EVO ONE Airframe.

AIMDROIX EVO ONE Y6
http://www.aimdroix.com/product%20copy.html


AIMDROIX EVO ONE QUAD
http://www.aimdroix.com/product.html

http://www.multirotorforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25257&stc=1http://www.multirotorforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25264&stc=1 (http://www.aimdroix.com/product.html)http://www.multirotorforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25260&stc=1 (http://www.aimdroix.com/product.html)

(http://www.aimdroix.com/product.html)

http://www.multirotorforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25261&stc=1 (http://www.aimdroix.com/product.html)http://www.multirotorforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25263&stc=1 (http://www.aimdroix.com/product.html)http://www.multirotorforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25265&stc=1

If you are interested you can pre order now. Expected shipping is 10/3/14.

Feel free to ask any questions.

Hans
7th October 2014, 06:06 AM
Testing testing, 1.2.3 Anybody see this post?

hpcoolahan
7th October 2014, 06:38 AM
Have now ;)

Ian Davidson
7th October 2014, 07:41 AM
Have now ;)

+1 :)

My only comments are they look like shiny computer rendered images, rather than photos of an actual assembled product - and could those aluminium arms fall foul of bendgate?

MAYMIDROIX
7th October 2014, 09:06 PM
+1 :)

My only comments are they look like shiny computer rendered images, rather than photos of an actual assembled product - and could those aluminium arms fall foul of bendgate?


here you can find posting that we have done during the development of the new frame. https://www.facebook.com/aimdroix

I'm working on getting nice pictures of the frame.

Farmernz
7th October 2014, 11:50 PM
,very nice, so from a quick read you can fit 14'' props, a g3 gimbal, and fly for up to 40 minutes? what battery/motor combination have you tested and any vids yet?

MAYMIDROIX
8th October 2014, 10:22 PM
,very nice, so from a quick read you can fit 14'' props, a g3 gimbal, and fly for up to 40 minutes? what battery/motor combination have you tested and any vids yet?
I have been testing 360kv motors with two 3s 5,200 batteries in series (6s) and I'm getting close to 20 minutes of hovering on the y6 configuration and close to 25 with a Y4. On the quad, I have tested with motors that I had laying around, 800kv with 11in props and as single 3300mah 4s batteries and I'm getting about 15 minutes. You can fit a 6s 10,000mah battery like this one http://www.readymaderc.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=53_84_333&products_id=2328, under the bottom plate and that will give you a plenty of flight time. I will upload videos this weekend . I really like the idea of a Y4 but there are no high end controllers that accept this configuration from what I have seen. I tried to use an apm 2.5 with the y6b config and just removing the front lower motors but it does not fly well.

MAYMIDROIX
8th October 2014, 10:24 PM
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/08/54f511de5a4a1b093f73ed01d2774422.jpghttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/08/f227526302a82be380165340d45dac1a.jpghttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/08/4c98c03b357c0dd3187c1cb47e26f8ca.jpg

MAYMIDROIX
12th October 2014, 10:50 PM
Here is a short video of the Y6. I'm working on new videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Hs8ydittOE&feature=youtu.be

Farmernz
13th October 2014, 08:30 PM
looks good, looking forward to seeing footage.

chad2323
14th October 2014, 03:20 PM
love to see some gimbal footage

MAYMIDROIX
14th October 2014, 10:08 PM
love to see some gimbal footage

I'm working on it. Just too many things and so short time.

MAYMIDROIX
14th October 2014, 10:54 PM
Here are some pictures of the frames:
http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah242/AIMDROIX/IMG_7229_zpsee0e2d30.jpg (http://s1382.photobucket.com/user/AIMDROIX/media/IMG_7229_zpsee0e2d30.jpg.html)
http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah242/AIMDROIX/IMG_7233_zps55645fe2.jpg (http://s1382.photobucket.com/user/AIMDROIX/media/IMG_7233_zps55645fe2.jpg.html)
http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah242/AIMDROIX/IMG_7234_zps1e086055.jpg (http://s1382.photobucket.com/user/AIMDROIX/media/IMG_7234_zps1e086055.jpg.html)
http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah242/AIMDROIX/IMG_7236_zps2a488f96.jpg (http://s1382.photobucket.com/user/AIMDROIX/media/IMG_7236_zps2a488f96.jpg.html)

MAYMIDROIX
14th October 2014, 10:56 PM
It's possible to easily convert the Y6 to a quad by just adding 3 extra frame parts and more arm. In this frame you can use the DJI arms if you are in a tight budget and want to save to get started. Then you can easily upgrade to the aluminum arms.

chad2323
15th October 2014, 01:44 PM
How good is the vibration dampening system in this frame?

chad2323
15th October 2014, 05:10 PM
One more question looking at the pictures seems like you still need to use spacers like when we use your arms on the discovery am I right? Just want to know just ordered the frame without arms and wondering if the spacers will come with the frame.

Thank's

MAYMIDROIX
15th October 2014, 11:34 PM
How good is the vibration dampening system in this frame?

It's very good. Depending on the weight of your components you can use only 4 balls or all 6. The rear upper mounted balls does a very good job keeping the plate stable, even though a lot weight will be a in front of the camera plate. Also you can slightly adjust the angle of the plate with the screws that attaches the plate to the rear damping balls so that you can level the plate or add some angle when you use fixed mounting fpv cameras.
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MAYMIDROIX
15th October 2014, 11:36 PM
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/15/df9430a38cea7cb44f8e8c4b93024dfe.jpg
*This is a prototype frame with Carbon fiber parts. Actual production frame has G10 parts*

Here is a picture of how you can install the camera gimbal and controller board. Also the transmitter can be attached under the plate.

chad2323
21st October 2014, 04:18 PM
Still waiting on the frame I think the USPS is on a holiday these last few months things been getting here slow.

53189

MAYMIDROIX
22nd October 2014, 07:12 AM
Still waiting on the frame I think the USPS is on a holiday these last few months things been getting here slow.

53189

I was looking at your tracking info and at least is in Florida. It's weird because it usually takes only 2-3 days from where I am in Ohio.

chad2323
22nd October 2014, 10:20 AM
Yea even all my stuff from Readymaderc is taking forever not sure whats up with the postal system these days but I cant trust priority anymore. The good news is looks like I will get the frame today and I can start building. Will post pictures

chad2323
22nd October 2014, 08:03 PM
Little footage from the maiden with the Gimbal boring video but the Vibration Dampening system works wonderful very happy with it. Need to extend the landing gear a few inches though the gopro just about touches the grown.

http://youtu.be/Nn0lGCb8YnM

MAYMIDROIX
22nd October 2014, 11:27 PM
Little footage from the maiden with the Gimbal boring video but the Vibration Dampening system works wonderful very happy with it. Need to extend the landing gear a few inches though the gopro just about touches the grown.

http://youtu.be/Nn0lGCb8YnM

Nice! Please post some pictures of your build. I'm glad that you are happy with the damping system.

For the longer landing legs, you can use this carbon fiber tube. http://www.ebay.com/itm/CARBON-FIBER-TUBE-8MM-DIAMETER-302MM-FOR-QUADCOPTER-MULTICOPTOR-4PCS-EM-01-/380899422590?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item58af5ff17e
It will be enough for a about 2-3 sets of legs. I would not recommend a leg tube length of more than 150mm so cutting them in half will be your limit.

chad2323
23rd October 2014, 08:06 PM
Here's how I have the FeiYu Tech-G3 Ultra 3-Axis Brushless Gimbal installed. I moved it back a hair today will get more pictures it's work in progress.

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MAYMIDROIX
25th October 2014, 01:46 AM
Nice, so you used the holes on the plate or did you drilled new holes?

chad2323
25th October 2014, 01:08 PM
Had to drill 4 small hole but was very easy. Just took the Gimbal bracket and lined it up on the plate to mark the holes.

DaFats
27th October 2014, 07:30 PM
Any chance of this thing (Y6) carrying a gimbaled Nex 5/7

MAYMIDROIX
28th October 2014, 08:12 AM
Any chance of this thing (Y6) carrying a gimbaled Nex 5/7
There is a good chance that it can carry a gimbaled NEX. The gimabal mount will need to be moved closer to the back of the camera plate and use taller landing legs. You can use any 8mm carbon fiber tubes to make your own leg height or I will also have them available next week. I honestly haven't done that setup but I don't see why it would not be possible. I can support you building the setup.

theIrish1
28th October 2014, 05:32 PM
I just completed building my Aimdroix EVO ONE (Y6) with the extended Aimdroix arms. Maiden flight was SUPER smooth, I am very happy with this build.

Details:
Aimdroix EVO ONE frame (Y6 Configuration) w/extended arms
Eagle Tree Systems Vector +OSD flight controller
Tiger Motor MT2216-12 - KV800 v2 motors
RCTimer 11x4.7 Carbon Fiber Props
RCTimer NFS-30A ESC's
FrSky X8R Rx
FrSky Taranis Transmitter
(2) Nano-Tech 4S 5000mah Batteries

Here is a link to the maiden flight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xkw5vepsMvs"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xkw5vepsMvs

I'll post pics if anyone is interested.

Irish

Farmernz
28th October 2014, 06:34 PM
wow. thats nice, keep the vids coming!

theIrish1
28th October 2014, 08:13 PM
I just completed building my Aimdroix EVO ONE (Y6) with the extended Aimdroix arms. Maiden flight was SUPER smooth, I am very happy with this build.

Details:
Aimdroix EVO ONE frame (Y6 Configuration) w/extended arms
Eagle Tree Systems Vector +OSD flight controller
Tiger Motor MT2216-12 - KV800 v2 motors
RCTimer 11x4.7 Carbon Fiber Props
RCTimer NFS-30A ESC's
FrSky X8R Rx
FrSky Taranis Transmitter
(2) Nano-Tech 4S 5000mah Batteries

Here is a link to the maiden flight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xkw5vepsMvs"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xkw5vepsMvs

I'll post pics if anyone is interested.

Irish


I just did an "endurance" test. I started with the batteries listed above at full charge and landed when they got to 3.6 per cell. I got just under 19 minutes of hover time with this configuration.

_Milo_
28th October 2014, 08:45 PM
Sweet build, you got nice flight time but still looks pretty nimble.

MAYMIDROIX
28th October 2014, 08:53 PM
I just did an "endurance" test. I started with the batteries listed above at full charge and landed when they got to 3.6 per cell. I got just under 19 minutes of hover time with this configuration.
That's pretty good. Did you got to see the avg amps draw from the vector?

DaxFX
28th October 2014, 09:21 PM
Hey guys, here is my aimdroix build, just want to share with you, aimdroix evo one, e300 dji motors 10x3.8 dji props.

theIrish1
31st October 2014, 07:23 AM
I just completed building my Aimdroix EVO ONE (Y6) with the extended Aimdroix arms. Maiden flight was SUPER smooth, I am very happy with this build.

Details:
Aimdroix EVO ONE frame (Y6 Configuration) w/extended arms
Eagle Tree Systems Vector +OSD flight controller
Tiger Motor MT2216-12 - KV800 v2 motors
RCTimer 11x4.7 Carbon Fiber Props
RCTimer NFS-30A ESC's
FrSky X8R Rx
FrSky Taranis Transmitter
(2) Nano-Tech 4S 5000mah Batteries

I'll post pics if anyone is interested.

Irish

Not really a build walkthrough, but here are some pics I took "along the way"..

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MAYMIDROIX
2nd November 2014, 09:42 AM
Finally, the EVO ONE instruction manual is up in the webpage and available for download. For those of you that don't have evo one frame yet, please take a look at the manual so that you can see the details of the design of every part of the frame. You'll notice why this frame stands out from other frames in the market.
Go here: http://www.aimdroix.com/evo_one_instruction_manual

chad2323
4th November 2014, 11:10 PM
getting ready to convert mine to a Y6 and just have a question on props. Right now I'm using 11 " apc props so should I get 10" for the bottom or stick with 11" top and bottom ?

Thank's

theIrish1
5th November 2014, 12:15 AM
Here is Flight 2. Warning, it's a boring video lol... but it shows the performance of the anti-vibration tray and it it shows some of the performance of the copter..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Luxgre89TOw"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Luxgre89TOw

Cheers

MAYMIDROIX
6th November 2014, 06:43 AM
getting ready to convert mine to a Y6 and just have a question on props. Right now I'm using 11 " apc props so should I get 10" for the bottom or stick with 11" top and bottom ?

Thank's

I found that using smaller props on the bottom it improves efficiency about 8% as the upper prop air flow will not completely merge with the lower propeller air flow. I really didn't felt I lost lift power with this setup.

theIrish1
9th November 2014, 11:54 AM
I found that using smaller props on the bottom it improves efficiency about 8% as the upper prop air flow will not completely merge with the lower propeller air flow. I really didn't felt I lost lift power with this setup.

I will have to give this a try. I have 11" on all 6 motors right now... but I have some 10" ones laying around I can try.

ssam99
29th November 2014, 12:32 AM
subscribed..y6 ordered...can you recommend configuration for long flight times. motors, battery packs etc..

theIrish1
29th November 2014, 01:31 AM
subscribed..y6 ordered...can you recommend configuration for long flight times. motors, battery packs etc..

Hey there...

As I listed before... my current config is as follows:

Details:
Aimdroix EVO ONE frame (Y6 Configuration) w/extended arms
Eagle Tree Systems Vector +OSD flight controller
Tiger Motor MT2216-12 - KV800 v2 motors
RCTimer 11x4.7 Carbon Fiber Props
RCTimer NFS-30A ESC's
FrSky X8R Rx
FrSky Taranis Transmitter
(2) 4S 5200mah Batteries

You may get longer flight times with lower KV motors and bigger props, but my config above gets me 18-19 minutes of 50/50 mixed flight & hover while carrying all my fpv gear and a GoPro.

ssam99
29th November 2014, 01:44 AM
thanks, i saw your post, I was actually wanting input from the creators of the frame..

MAYMIDROIX
1st December 2014, 12:37 AM
subscribed..y6 ordered...can you recommend configuration for long flight times. motors, battery packs etc..

Hi,

As you want long flight time you should go with 6s batteries such as these ones. http://www.readymaderc.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=53_84_333. There are other options out there for the price I think those are pretty good and will fit under the bottom plate of the frame. For the motors, depending on your budget you can go with T-Motors, rtimer or hobby motors of around 400kv. You can use up to 16in props on the top and 15 on the bottom. From my experience with the big props, the gains of the controller are harder to tune but you get more efficiency using big props. From the customer I have seen they have use smaller props and their build look more stable than mine with the big props.

ssam99
6th December 2014, 06:50 PM
ok so I got a set of sunnysky v3508 29 (380kv) motors. I'm having a problem with the fitment. The holes in the arms for the mount match fine but the button head m3 screw on the other side is interfering with mounting the second motor. Are these holes supposed to be countersunk? the motor fits on the black motor mount plate becuase the holes in that plate are countersunk. on the arms the holes aren't countersunk and the screws are buttonhead. the screw is not letting me mount the motor flat.

what size motors was this frame designed for? I remember asking what motors earlier..???

MAYMIDROIX
6th December 2014, 07:26 PM
ok so I got a set of sunnysky v3508 29 (380kv) motors. I'm having a problem with the fitment. The holes in the arms for the mount match fine but the button head m3 screw on the other side is interfering with mounting the second motor. Are these holes supposed to be countersunk? the motor fits on the black motor mount plate becuase the holes in that plate are countersunk. on the arms the holes aren't countersunk. the screw is not letting me mount the motor flat.

what size motors was this frame designed for? I remember asking what motors earlier..???

Hi,

If the motors are over 35mm in diameter then you will need to use this spacer http://www.readymaderc.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=165_295&products_id=2189 or you can stack 4 M3 washers that are included in the kit to clear the button head bolts. The counter sunk hole makes the arms end to be weaker and it doesn't look good when you are are not using the arms with the coaxial motor mount kit. The arms will do fit any motor in the market that have mounting holes between 16mm to 25mm.

ssam99
6th December 2014, 07:33 PM
OK... I didn't realize I needed them....I guess i'll get these spacers on order.. thanks..

Hiway
13th December 2014, 11:39 PM
I am working on the video from today- I live in Sharpsburg, Maryland, and this evening was the rescheduled rain date for the annual "Illumination"

The Illumination is where a luminary (paper bag with sand and a candle) is placed on the battlefield for every fallen soldier- all 23,000 plus. It was, and still is th single bloodiest day in American history.

I have a long and sordid history of my own with this event- every year some snafu has kept me from getting the killer footage I have access to- footage that nobody else can get as of yet- because it is National Park Property- but I have an "in"- there are a select few properties privately held in the park- and federal rules preventing formal flying there do not apply (all recent ruling and interpretations aside- I have been at this for 2 years now and those rules were not in place originally)

*stay with me- I am getting close

So I am doing my shake down flight this evening at golden hour and waiting for the sunlight to hit that sweet spot where I can get the luminaries, and then use loiter and position hold on the pixhawk (or predetermined waypoints) in the dark and then let it rtl so I can get that coveted footage when all of a sudden my goggles go static and I hear silence- the motors just stopped.

I ripped my goggles off in time to look up and watch my hex fall 100 feet to the earth. The front tipped after a second of falling level as the gimbal gave it the weight and it flipped onto it's back and rode down and SMACK! Camera shut off on impact- but I have the film, lol!

So- after spending a few hours I find all components bar a handful are fine- the frame is toast. 6 Sunny Sky 3508 29 380kv motors and 6 40 amp esc's... some 6S lipos already and the pixhawk... a custom 2 axis gimbal and canon for mapping and the arris is still working- missing a rubber grommet is all.

I am going to move all parts onto this frame- so has anyone built a 6S Evo One Y6 yet? My hex would fly real use for 20 minutes on thr 8000 30c 6S flightmax lipos and 15 minutes on the multistar 5.2 6S (no punch outs with multistars- that low c rating will kill the cells) with 11x4.7 or 11x5 props

Maybe I will be first?

*ps- I forgot to mention what caused me to fall- the battery mount came loose, and caused the velcro straps to give and the battery fell off and pulled out of the connection. I am very glad I do not fly over anything as a habit that would cause me to be in the news (my mini racers are excluded from that comment- I fly them everywhere- even through open windows at the risk of replacing props. Just not occupied windows - but it is an incident like this that humbles even the most jaded pilot.

Hiway
17th December 2014, 11:37 AM
ok so I got a set of sunnysky v3508 29 (380kv) motors....


Hey Sam- same motors I have. I never saw the post or I could have mentioned the adapter rings aimdroix has for larger bells.

Curious what FC you are using?

For the record- those 380 kv motors on my hex ran 20minutes on a 8000mah 6S with 11x4.7 props. I am really curious how the Y6 configuration will drop that efficiency. Keep us posted!

Oh- my hex was over 3.5kg almost 4kg AUW

chad2323
18th December 2014, 04:55 PM
Have my frame up for sale on RC group. Very nice frame well thought out. I like to build and test new frames.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2306737

ssam99
21st December 2014, 12:16 AM
some photos of my latest build..

specs..
dual 6s 6600mah lipos,(wired in parallel) 13200mah total.
qaunum power distribution with ubec
secondary ztw back up bec
extended the landing gear. ( may change this up later..not liking how it looks) working on a retractable landing gear setup..
feiyu tech 3 axis gimbal
gopro hero 4
6 sunnysky 390v
6 14x5.5 gemfan carbon fiber props
atto pilot 180amp voltage/current sense
frsky taranis plus
pixhawk flight controller w/gps

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dont have the flight controller wired in yet. but all the power distribution is wired up. wont be long till im flyin..http://fpvlab.com/forums/images/misc/pencil.png

RS2K
21st December 2014, 04:19 PM
How long does it take to change out larger batteries? I'm looking to put together a 6S powered Y6 or X8 and I want something really quick easy to get in the air between charges.

MAYMIDROIX
21st December 2014, 04:23 PM
Its relatively quick. Just unplug the battery and loose the battery velcro strap. I think it should take less than a minute. I've designed a 3d printed battery mount to mount the batteries under the bottom plate.

RS2K
21st December 2014, 04:29 PM
Its relatively quick. Just unplug the battery and loose the battery velcro strap. I think it should take less than a minute. I've designed a 3d printed battery mount to mount the batteries under the bottom plate.

That and a PBD designed for this frame would be great. :)

MAYMIDROIX
21st December 2014, 04:32 PM
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/21/e08220da48c3574480bee97e4b106c53.jpghttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/21/8a1542881146db346bf1add0f088c422.jpghttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/21/1048f687290d67246b8d41a54e15236f.jpg

MAYMIDROIX
21st December 2014, 04:37 PM
That and a PBD designed for this frame would be great. :)

Yes' PBD would be great and ill be working on that if there is a market for it. For now you can use a PDB that have standard mounting holes such as this one http://www.readymaderc.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=76_362&products_id=2509 or you can make your own power harness which is not difficult.

RS2K
21st December 2014, 04:40 PM
I might have to look into fabricating an adapter to fit my Raptor battery tray into one of these. :)

All it takes is two metal posts to fit.

MAYMIDROIX
21st December 2014, 04:41 PM
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/21/834cb2f49c54c962d80d5738d611cf7b.jpg

Maybe it can be made here. :)

RS2K
22nd December 2014, 11:32 AM
Here's what I'm thinking:

I want a hot setup on the Y6 frame so I can keep the speed up and punch out of dumb situation on a windy day.


On 6x 4830-480Kv motors with 15x5 props I'm looking at a max thrust of around 24000 grams.

Assuming 3670 gram AUW (2X 6S 70C 5000 mAh batteries are heavy ;)) without camera:

16.8 amp hover and 276 amps WOT.
28.5 minute hover time to 80% capacity.
6.5:1 thrust to weight ratio at WOT.
Flight times should be 15+ if I stay off the throttle. (Which is how I usually fly)
I expect around 5 minute flight times if I put on the coals with under two minutes of full throttle time

Add another 400 grams for camera, VTX and gimbal should get me 4070 AUW:

18.6 amp hover and 276 amps WOT.
25.8 minute hover to 80% capacity
5.89:1 TWR
Flight times should be 15+ if I stay off the throttle.
I expect around 5 minute flight times if I put on the coals with under two minutes of full throttle time


I think that's a bit excessive. :)

I'm planning on using 40 amp ESCs that can burst 55 amps. I think they'll be just enough for this setup.


I have not decided if I'll be using Cleanflight with a Naze32 or a Pixhawk. I expect an incredibly stable airframe with Cleanflight since I can enabled OneShot125 code. I'm curious to see how that works on 6S and 15 inch props. I'm not sure if the GPS code in Cleanflight is trustworthy though. This would make a good testbed to find out.

chad2323
30th December 2014, 08:06 PM
56536Have the Aimdroix Frame setup as a quad with the Minix on it and it flies great. using the DJI arms on it. I see now they are including arms with the purchase of the frame what about the people who bought last month?

http://youtu.be/OBod5We8bnk

MAYMIDROIX
30th December 2014, 08:20 PM
Nice video Chad. Send me an email and I can deal something with you. :)

chad2323
30th December 2014, 09:24 PM
Sent you a email Thank's

Liam
9th January 2015, 03:00 PM
Liam here, my order from you arrived yesterday, I am very impressed, i was wondering how you feel about an APM 2.6 in an X8 configuration, with 30 amp ESC's with KV980's
Thanks a bunch
Great frame!

Liam
9th January 2015, 03:23 PM
Also I will be doing a side by side comparison of an AIMDROIX and a HT FLIP. Initially right off you can tell the AIMDROIX has far superior lifting power and large areas between plates for flight controllers, batteries, and other equipment.

Liam
10th January 2015, 02:05 PM
Just a quick suggestion Maymidroix it would be helpful if you threw in a driver for the hex nuts with the purchase, I still have not matched up with any of my hex drivers with the hex nuts supplied 5/62? maybe

Hiway
10th January 2015, 06:23 PM
Let me know if there are any questions- I am going to break this down into many installments as I go. I find it extremely easy to follow the instructions so I doubt anyone would ever have a single question once they have parts in front of them and the manual open.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2MGvTHJhtI

Liam
10th January 2015, 07:08 PM
Yes Hiway very easy once it is all out on the bench, what size driver are you using
I am currently using an allen wrench it is kind of a pain but I have one on order.
I am used to building HT frames

Hiway
10th January 2015, 07:56 PM
Greetings Liam- the hardware takes a 2 mm hex. The closest standard size hex but too small by an ant leg is 5/64

Liam
11th January 2015, 12:03 AM
Ahhh! That's what needed to know,cool!
What motors are you using on your build? I was planning KV 980's for an hex 8 config but I think that might be too much, maybe somewhere around KV 800???
Thanks a bunch
Liam

MAYMIDROIX
11th January 2015, 01:01 AM
Liam here, my order from you arrived yesterday, I am very impressed, i was wondering you'll how feel about an APM 2.6 in an X8 configuration, with 30 amp ESC's with KV980's
Thanks a bunch
Great frame!

Those motors kv is too high for this frame.The quad frame was designed to use up to 14 in props so I would start from there. Then decide whether you'll be using a 4s battery or a 6s. If you go with 4s I'll recommend the kv to be between 500 to 650. if you go with 6s you can go down to 350 kv -400kv, depending how much weight you'll carry on your frame. 30 A escs should be fine with most aplications, check the motors specifications to know what is the max amp draw from the motor.

I saw your email but as you wrote the same here I will respond in this thread.

Cheers,
maymidroix

Hiway
11th January 2015, 01:14 AM
Yep- what the man said up there.

I am spinning 12 and 11's on 3508-29-380kv's with 6S- it has to lift a few things. Like 2 different gimbals- one a gopro and the other a canon sx260 for mapping (I am building that gimbal now for it)

I think the 500 suggested up there is good- but so many variables play into the build and I cannot stress enough how much front end math and planning I did on my previous craft that ran these motors to get what I wanted.

Basically- check weight specs and make a list- the first thing is to try and establish what the estimated real world AUW will be. It isn't as hard as it is tedious- all parts usually have that listed in the specs. Add everything up- get that number and then see what demands are and match motor/esc/battery to those expectations. That is how I approach large multirotor building- begin with weight and use/needs.

MAYMIDROIX
11th January 2015, 01:30 AM
Yep- what the man said up there.

I am spinning 12 and 11's on 3508-29-380kv's with 6S- it has to lift a few things. Like 2 different gimbals- one a gopro and the other a canon sx260 for mapping (I am building that gimbal now for it)

I think the 500 suggested up there is good- but so many variables play into the build and I cannot stress enough how much front end math and planning I did on my previous craft that ran these motors to get what I wanted.

Basically- check weight specs and make a list- the first thing is to try and establish what the estimated real world AUW will be. It isn't as hard as it is tedious- all parts usually have that listed in the specs. Add everything up- get that number and then see what demands are and match motor/esc/battery to those expectations. That is how I approach large multirotor building- begin with weight and use/needs.


I totally agree. :)

MAYMIDROIX
11th January 2015, 01:33 AM
Let me know if there are any questions- I am going this down into many installments as I go. I find it extremely easy to follow the instructions so I doubt anyone would ever have a single question once they have parts in front of them and the manual open.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2MGvTHJhtI

Nice vid Hiway. It must have take you a lot of time to get that done, thanks for your support. .

Liam
11th January 2015, 06:44 PM
Thanks MAYMIDROIX I will be carrying front and rear GoPro with FatShark, figured i'd go with the 4s. Also a more technical question, my motor wires always run short on these long armed frames, the KV 500's I am planning to order are no exception. Common sense tells me to extend with bullet connectors from the motors to the ESC instead of from the ESC to the PDB. What gauge wire would you guys use? I can't remember.
Thanks
Liam

Liam
13th January 2015, 01:00 PM
And then silence��������

MAYMIDROIX
13th January 2015, 01:26 PM
Hi Guys, I try my best to keep up with all the tasks that are required to keep everything going plus I work full time as engineer in a car company. Sorry for my delays but I never respond later than 2 bussiness days. I hope you guys can understand.

MAYMIDROIX
13th January 2015, 01:32 PM
Thanks MAYMIDROIX I will be carrying front and rear GoPro with FatShark, figured i'd go with the 4s. Also a more technical question, my motor wires always run short on these long armed frames, the KV 500's I am planning to order are no exception. Common sense tells me to extend with bullet connectors from the motors to the ESC instead of from the ESC to the PDB. What gauge wire would you guys use? I can't remember.
Thanks
Liam

I recommend removing the bullet connectors as this will remove a possible point of failure. You should use the same wire size of the esc so I'm not sure what will be wire size of the esc that you'll be using but a 14awg should be ok.

Liam
13th January 2015, 01:35 PM
Thanks for the tech support, I will be posting pics shortly

MAYMIDROIX
13th January 2015, 01:44 PM
Yes Liam; I am also becoming frustrated. Very sporadic communication is developing.

I just responded to your Facebook message. :)

MAYMIDROIX
13th January 2015, 01:44 PM
Thanks for the tech support, I will be posting pics shortly

Awesome. I'm anxious to see how it will come up.

Liam
15th January 2015, 05:01 PM
Cool will do, I am really going to put this frame to the test. Tests in high winds and stuff, I did the same with the HT FLIP PRO (ended up building six of them) as in it is one of the larger frames out there and your ANDROIX has about 4 inches bigger foot print in boom length. I do a lot of filming down at the Eastern shore (Delmarva peninsula) and I am installing an very beefed up FatShark w IBcrazy ten turn helicals as well for added range, I get into some really remote locations so the film should be really beautiful
Stay well
Liam

Flateric
20th January 2015, 03:40 PM
I'm just finishing up my build here. I have the g3 ultra gimbal and read that is can be bolted up with the need to drill holes.

I cannot seem to figure how this is done. Anyone have any pics of this?

My current setup is;

Tmotor 330kv, 16inch tmotor props (I appear to be able to mount 16" on both top and bottom motor on my setup without issue, any reason not to do this?), Tmotor 45A esc.

Not sure if I'll run my TSLRS, EZUHF or the frsky l9r receiver/radio setup on it yet. Got a number of batteries for it as well, all 6s from 6000mha up to 12500mha. I also have some gemfan props that are a more agressive pitch.

I'll be running a Naza M GPS, any pitfalls with the gains and this y setup?

I'll post my results of flight times with the various configurations etc here soon.

Love the frame, really a nice step up from other frames I have worked with.

Liam
20th January 2015, 04:14 PM
Flateric
I did a little asking around here at the shop, it seems there are several mounting kits for it and I looked it up
G3 ultra does sell a aircraft mount kit as well and with the exclusion of some part it should mount on your frame also I saw on Amazon several
Hope this helps
Liam

MAYMIDROIX
23rd January 2015, 01:17 AM
I'm just finishing up my build here. I have the g3 ultra gimbal and read that is can be bolted up with the need to drill holes.

I cannot seem to figure how this is done. Anyone have any pics of this?

My current setup is;

Tmotor 330kv, 16inch tmotor props (I appear to be able to mount 16" on both top and bottom motor on my setup without issue, any reason not to do this?), Tmotor 45A esc.

Not sure if I'll run my TSLRS, EZUHF or the frsky l9r receiver/radio setup on it yet. Got a number of batteries for it as well, all 6s from 6000mha up to 12500mha. I also have some gemfan props that are a more agressive pitch.

I'll be running a Naza M GPS, any pitfalls with the gains and this y setup?

I'll post my results of flight times with the various configurations etc here soon.

Love the frame, really a nice step up from other frames I have worked with.

Hi,

In order to use a 3 axis gimbal, you can either make longer landing legs with 8mm carbon fiber tube or just can flip over the front aluminum camera support braces.

Here are some pics
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To have a good support to the alumimum part, you need to drill a hole on the lower support g10 plate so that you can use the second threaded hole of the aluminum support part. The g10 can be easily cut with this.57413You'll also need to grind off a bit of material around the area that will be close to the screw that attaches the camera plate to the damping ball. This will be to increase clearance and prevent the screw to contact the plate, thus transferring vibrations.

57414 The gimbal it's attached to the arrow like slots on the plate. Use the included washers to improve the clamping area between the screws and the plate.

MAYMIDROIX
31st January 2015, 02:46 PM
Not sure exactly what happened that the thread was closed. There was checkmark here to open it... lol sorry guys.

I just noticed that there is a checkmark box to close the thread. Maybe I accidentally checked the box from my cellphone. I'll be careful the next time I reply.

Flateric
31st January 2015, 03:07 PM
Your attachments on that post appear to be invalid.

MAYMIDROIX
1st February 2015, 11:29 AM
Your attachments on that post appear to be invalid.

On what post?

RonSII
2nd February 2015, 06:46 PM
#84

MAYMIDROIX
2nd February 2015, 11:45 PM
#84
You should be able to see the pictures if you click on the attachment link

RonSII
2nd February 2015, 11:49 PM
Still gives you the invalid attachment error... like when you move a thread or rename something and the links don't get updated...


your links are missing the remaining characters starting with and including the '&d=#######' are you still using a portable device to post with?

MAYMIDROIX
3rd February 2015, 12:48 AM
Still gives you the invalid attachment error... like when you move a thread or rename something and the links don't get updated...


your links are missing the remaining characters starting with and including the '&d=#######' are you still using a portable device to post with?
I posted that one from my computer. I think you need to be logged in, in order to see the pictures. I just tried to see them without being logged in and it gave me that error but when I tried to see them logged in, I can see the pictures.

RonSII
3rd February 2015, 12:52 AM
I am logged in just tried a different browser same computer... still no pics... the end part of the attachment id is missing starting with the ampersand... I know some apps don't like that and will truncate it... your logged in as admin for the thread however...

MAYMIDROIX
3rd February 2015, 01:03 AM
I am logged in just tried a different browser same computer... still no pics... the end part of the attachment id is missing starting with the ampersand... I know some apps don't like that and will truncate it... your logged in as admin for the thread however...

Oh well. I will repost them tomorrow. :(

RonSII
3rd February 2015, 01:03 AM
Your post #17 is posted correctly
'spaces added'

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http://fpvlab.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=52909&d=1413429988&thumb=1

and all of your tapatalk pics and photobucket pics work but then they are posted differently on remote server.

here is what the wrong ones look like

h t t p ://fpvlab.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=57408

http://fpvlab.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=57408
http://fpvlab.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=57408

Hiway
5th February 2015, 09:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VC4hTrhoA4

Patroller
19th February 2015, 11:34 AM
I am planning on this frame for my second FPV build. I am also interested in longer flight times as well as stability. As such I am planning on 6s. As I understand it the quad is slightly more efficient than the Y6 or even the 8 motor variant. What are the advantages of the extra motors? is it a more stable platform? I would assume it would carry more weight? I would like it to carry a go pro or possibly even a Sony NEX with a two way gimbal.

I am thinking about ordering the quad to start and having the parts to try it different ways (I like tinkering). Would a Tiger MN 3508 380kv be a good versatile motor for that approach?

Hiway
19th February 2015, 11:55 AM
I am planning on this frame for my second FPV build. I am also interested in longer flight times as well as stability. As such I am planning on 6s. As I understand it the quad is slightly more efficient than the Y6 or even the 8 motor variant. What are the advantages of the extra motors? is it a more stable platform? I would assume it would carry more weight? I would like it to carry a go pro or possibly even a Sony NEX with a two way gimbal.

I am thinking about ordering the quad to start and having the parts to try it different ways (I like tinkering). Would a Tiger MN 3508 380kv be a good versatile motor for that approach?

"...extra motors" or "Coaxial" configurations with motors top and bottom offer added lifting ability, and redundancy in the event of a motor or esc failure while in flight- the coaxial X8 or Y6 can land with a motor not working.

You are correct in that the quad is more efficient. Keep in mind that is subjective after a point based on what you are lifting and how you fly and what the craft is being used for.

Should you simply desire a large FPV rig, then this frame is a nice choice- I like the Y6 as it puts the arms out wide and allows for the FPV or camera deck to be used to it's fullest capability. I could go on, but you are at the early stages of planning this build so until you narrow down the precise plan of attack, I won't muddy the waters with personal anecdotal opinions.

Patroller
19th February 2015, 11:57 PM
"...extra motors" or "Coaxial" configurations with motors top and bottom offer added lifting ability, and redundancy in the event of a motor or esc failure while in flight- the coaxial X8 or Y6 can land with a motor not working.

You are correct in that the quad is more efficient. Keep in mind that is subjective after a point based on what you are lifting and how you fly and what the craft is being used for.

Should you simply desire a large FPV rig, then this frame is a nice choice- I like the Y6 as it puts the arms out wide and allows for the FPV or camera deck to be used to it's fullest capability. I could go on, but you are at the early stages of planning this build so until you narrow down the precise plan of attack, I won't muddy the waters with personal anecdotal opinions.

Sounds like the Y6 is the best option for me then. If using 6s, any suggestions on props or motor combinations? FYI, I am familiar with ECalc (new to FPV, not RC), I am asking based on comments here about less stability with the larger blades. What sunnyskys did you put in your build?

Hiway
20th February 2015, 01:35 AM
Sounds like the Y6 is the best option for me then. If using 6s, any suggestions on props or motor combinations? FYI, I am familiar with ECalc (new to FPV, not RC), I am asking based on comments here about less stability with the larger blades. What sunnyskys did you put in your build?

I am using the 3508 29 380kv motors and have not done any test flights yet.

I moved all of my electronics from a similar weighted hex frame after a crash. I shopped frames based on weight. What sold me on this frame was the ability to have my heavy 6S batteries on a deck rather than hanging from a strap underneath- which was the reason for the hex crashing.

Now- another reason those motors were used in the previous build and wound up here (I think that was a pun) was because of the prop size limits on the previous frame- I had a max of 13in props. These motors spin 11x4.7's or 11x5's on 6S and lifted the AUW of the hex that averaged 3kg if fully loaded with authority and kept it aloft for about 17 to 20 minutes and coming down with the cells at 3.5v each.

So I did not pick my setup for the frame- I picked the frame based on what I thought may work and will adjust as I go. I plan on using 11x5 props on top and 10x5 on the bottom on this build and see where it all leads. I prefer smaller props spinning faster as it is a better performance in wind- the Y6 and coaxials perform better in wind also, and since this rig is to be used for demonstrations with precision ag work, geo-mapping, and AP- it needs to be versatile and able to work in a variety of conditions.

If I were to build this Y6 from scratch, I would choose these motors: http://innov8tivedesigns.com/parts/brushless-motors/cobra-cm-4008-36-brushless-motor-kv-400
and use the same 10 to 12 inch prop combos. I would use lighter esc's than what I have also as 40 amp is way overkill and just will never be needed.

Otherwise, I wouldn't have changed anything else- but that is because I have had it all working.

Start with AUW- estimate out everything exactly like you want to use it. I even built a custom 2 axis gimbal using the martinez controller and a HK gimbal- found some 2212 gimbal motors and now have a nice rig for the canon sx260 that will be the mapping cam with the pixhawk and auto snap via chdk for making 3D mosaics and other cool geeky shit. The point is, I took all weights, risked their accuracy and guestimated up a tad as I went, and that was how I determined the final AUW of this build. I was within 146 grams (I was off on the wrong side of that too of course)

Weird things happen in the middle of it all- I was ding Snoopy dances at one point when I cut over 200 grams of wire weight and bullets out from the hex- but misprinted weights on brushless gimbal motors, and not accounting for hardware weight, and forgetting the weight of the separate lipo for the fpv stuff so it is not fed off the 6S pushed that savings out and took the added mentioned above.

Make lists... watch more vids... shop gear and always write weights down. I kept a small legal pad and each page had each component I was interested in. I then would scour forums to find info on each product to see if it should be avoided. I revised the list- many times. I would find better options, or alternative options, and with the tech advancing and new gear being released and improved and invented every week... a person can go stark raving mad; but if you have a very specific use in mind, and do not try to make it something that does everything, then the right items will become apparent.

My build should do most of the things well I want it to- I sacrificed the one thing that may be sacrilege on the frame- the FPV performance. I loaded it up.

I have lots of FPV quads though- this really isn't for that anyway.

Best of luck!

Patroller
20th February 2015, 01:50 AM
I just ordered the kit a few minutes ago. Thanks for the link on the other motor. I will consider it strongly. It looks about the same price as the TM. When I calculate needs for an ESC, it looks like peak using 14" props on 6s should be about 21A. I would think a 25 or 30 would be plenty.

Hiway
25th February 2015, 10:07 AM
I need to shop esc now it appears. First flight attempts failed miserably as on 11 and 10 in props it won't even lift. Too heavy. I made some major errors in calculations it seems. Looking for 30am esc that can take 6S.

Liam
25th February 2015, 01:36 PM
Hiway, I used 30 amp spider ESC's Simon K flashed. I am going with 14 4.5 props, that is the steepest pitch I could find.
KV 350 but I am in a Octoquad configuration . You definitely need more grab than that to get this puppy off the ground

MAYMIDROIX
26th February 2015, 12:04 AM
I need to shop esc now it appears. First flight attempts failed miserably as on 11 and 10 in props it won't even lift. Too heavy. I made some major errors in calculations it seems. Looking for 30am esc that can take 6S.

Go up to 15in props. With those 380kv motors that you have that's the prop size that you should use. What escs do you have? I have been using these in one of my test rig and bought them becuase they were really cheap but they work pretty good. http://www.rctimer.com/product-1067.html

Patroller
26th February 2015, 12:17 AM
I am still researching my prop and motor choice for 6S. On the Cobra 4008/36 (400kv) it suggests the max prop as a Gemfan as a 14x4.5. Would that be a good combination?

I would like to run the largest prop that is also pretty tame and stable. Planning on a 3 axis gyro for a go pro.

MAYMIDROIX
26th February 2015, 01:42 AM
I am still researching my prop and motor choice for 6S. On the Cobra 4008/36 (400kv) it suggests the max prop as a Gemfan as a 14x4.5. Would that be a good combination?

I would like to run the largest prop that is also pretty tame and stable. Planning on a 3 axis gyro for a go pro.

On 6s it should be good. The y6 frame was designed to fit up to 15in props so yo can try both props sizes.

Patroller
4th March 2015, 02:28 AM
After researching various power systems for this build this is what I think I am going to order. What do you guys think?

6- T-Motors MT-4008 380kv
6 -T-Motors ESC TM S25A
6 -T-Motors Props TM-CFX 14x4.8

Liam
13th March 2015, 10:30 AM
That would work great


After researching various power systems for this build this is what I think I am going to order. What do you guys think?

6- T-Motors MT-4008 380kv
6 -T-Motors ESC TM S25A
6 -T-Motors Props TM-CFX 14x4.8

MAYMIDROIX
13th March 2015, 10:49 AM
After researching various power systems for this build this is what I think I am going to order. What do you guys think?

6- T-Motors MT-4008 380kv
6 -T-Motors ESC TM S25A
6 -T-Motors Props TM-CFX 14x4.8
Sounds good to me too. You can also get a set of 15in props with less pitch to test if you can increase the flight time. With a bigger prop you get more lift and less pitch decreases the drag force on the propellers. So you could have the same lift as the 14 in but less drag. This is just a thought that I just came up with, but it will be good to try.

Let us know how it goes.

MAYMIDROIX
22nd March 2015, 09:31 PM
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/22/155e37f59913040b6c8f58e8f199634c.jpg
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/22/bc84f293445df3649c506ddc2831e466.jpg

This is my quad with 16in props. I made an extensions for the rear arms so that the motor are in line with the fronts snd this allows enough clearance for 16in props.

Patroller
23rd March 2015, 02:17 AM
I changed my plans a little after some more research. I already bought some of the new T-motor Air ESC's. The correct one for 6S is the 40 amp model. It is about the same weight as the older 25 amp model and is supposed to work with the new Antigravity motors coming out any day. I have decided to try the 4006 380KV motors when they come out this spring. Each motor only weighs about 66 grams and can push up to a 15" carbon fiber prop on 6S.

MAYMIDROIX
23rd March 2015, 10:16 AM
That should be pretty good. What are the specs of those motors?

Patroller
23rd March 2015, 10:24 AM
Here is the link:

http://www.rctigermotor.com/html/2015/Antigravity_Motors_0212/289.html

It's a brand new motor. No reviews yet, but it is quite a bit lighter than anything else.

Djinnphiz
25th April 2015, 07:06 PM
Hi... Not sure that your Contact Form is working on the website.

Please advise I need some information prior to ordering.

Thanks.

theIrish1
25th April 2015, 07:29 PM
Hi... Not sure that your Contact Form is working on the website.

Please advise I need some information prior to ordering.

Thanks.

What info do you need?

MAYMIDROIX
26th April 2015, 12:23 AM
Hi... Not sure that your Contact Form is working on the website.

Please advise I need some information prior to ordering.

Thanks.

The website should be working. I do receive emails daily. send me an email to support@aimdroix.com so that I can also help you.

Aose
26th April 2015, 01:14 AM
Cant wait to see dual motor version of this in action during endurance testing.

Jubz
30th May 2015, 07:32 PM
Thought I'd ask here before doing up the geometry calculations.
Anyone know offhand where is the center of gravity is located for a Evo One Y6 frame config?

MAYMIDROIX
3rd June 2015, 01:42 PM
Thought I'd ask here before doing up the geometry calculations.
Anyone know offhand where is the center of gravity is located for a Evo One Y6 frame config?

If you look at the top plate, you'll notice two small holes located at the sides of the top plate. This is the location of the where the CG should be located to balance the frame. You can simply hold the frame with your fingers under those hole to verify how is your frame balanced. Usually it's front heavy because of the gimbal, so you need to position your battery very far back.
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Jubz
3rd June 2015, 06:14 PM
If you look at the top plate, you'll notice two small holes located at the sides of the top plate. This is the location of the where the CG should be located to balance the frame. You can simply hold the frame with your fingers under those hole to verify how is your frame balanced. Usually it's front heavy because of the gimbal, so you need to position your battery very far back.
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Thanks for this!

MAYMIDROIX
3rd June 2015, 06:50 PM
You welcome :). Let me know if you have any other questions. Sorry for the delay.

Jubz
6th June 2015, 01:37 PM
For my Y6 config, working out placement of ESC's and a PDB. Would be great if folks can show us pics of your setup; thanks!