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terabyte
13th August 2014, 08:25 PM
We want to play in smaller\tighter places just like the rest of you guys... so we made the FlyingCinema Toaster. It's small, it's ridiculously over-powered, and its design is inspired by modern sport bikes and helicopters. It will still be everything that you know FlyingCinema for, but it incorporates a few lessons we have learned along the way. Get ready guys, its coming, and its going to stand FPV racing on its side.

Who wants to make Flying Toasters with us?

/JR

nate25j
13th August 2014, 08:31 PM
I'll take a slice :D

criccio
13th August 2014, 08:35 PM
Because what we really need is more mini-quad's!

Just kidding.. kinda. Still interested to see what you come up with. Innovation at this stage of the game is getting interesting.

I'm sure you've already thought of this but support for 6" props is a must, I would say.

BTW, the first thing I thought us when I saw this thread...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i00thtWgvDs

Curtisbeef
13th August 2014, 08:39 PM
http://i.imgur.com/oFzvo4W.png

bllama
13th August 2014, 08:41 PM
The toaster is coming and it will be fun!

http://atomictoasters.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/screensaver-1-toasters.gif

bllama
13th August 2014, 08:42 PM
http://i.imgur.com/oFzvo4W.png

yeah, its kind of like that!! fast and fat!

terabyte
13th August 2014, 08:52 PM
yeah, its kin of like that!! fast and fat!

Don't call "it" fat, "it" will cut you and then toast you.

Zeeflyboy
13th August 2014, 08:55 PM
interesting name lol...

look forwards to seeing what you come up with!

terabyte
13th August 2014, 09:55 PM
http://i.imgur.com/oFzvo4W.png

Curtis can you get rid of the GoPro ;)

Curtisbeef
13th August 2014, 10:11 PM
Done :P
http://i.imgur.com/RPSO2Q3.png

Flying Monkey
13th August 2014, 10:13 PM
Hmm... feels like a tease...

Where are the pictures?
Where are the videos?
Why hasn't it SHIPPED YET???

lol :) Looking forward to what you come up with.

terabyte
13th August 2014, 10:13 PM
Oh thats sexy!

criccio
13th August 2014, 10:18 PM
Will it be sub-250mm and support 6" props?

i'll see myself out...

terabyte
13th August 2014, 10:21 PM
Will it be sub-250mm and support 6" props?

i'll see myself out...
Please stay, Im just not ready to answer that yet. I will say its a quad and its a little bigger than you are thinking.

bllama
13th August 2014, 10:27 PM
Will it be sub-250mm and support 6" props?

i'll see myself out...



its an explosion of power... it can make bread ans stuff

Flying Monkey
13th August 2014, 10:41 PM
interesting name lol...


Toaster? Yeah sure. But at least it's not a quad with a shoe gone missing ;)

criccio
13th August 2014, 10:44 PM
Shots fired^

Sinewavz
13th August 2014, 11:19 PM
Its defiantly going to burn something and it's not toast.... :)

fpv2013
14th August 2014, 12:49 AM
YAMQ - yet another mini-quad. Yawn...


We want to play in smaller\tighter places just like the rest of you guys... so we made the FlyingCinema Toaster. It's small, it's ridiculously over-powered, and its design is inspired by modern sport bikes and helicopters. It will still be everything that you know FlyingCinema for, but it incorporates a few lessons we have learned along the way. Get ready guys, its coming, and its going to stand FPV racing on its side.

Who wants to make Flying Toasters with us?

/JR

Sinewavz
14th August 2014, 01:29 AM
Nothing like your typical quad...nothing.

Matt-
14th August 2014, 01:31 AM
Pics or it didn't happen ;-)

This is really exciting. I've been watching TBS' Gemini thread closely and it sounds like I'll now have to make a decision......

Josh
14th August 2014, 01:38 AM
Don't call "it" fat, "it" will cut you and then toast you.
It's not fat, its big-boned.

Flying Monkey
14th August 2014, 01:55 AM
YAMQ - yet another mini-quad. Yawn...

That's rude.

Jake Bullit
14th August 2014, 02:49 AM
Got any waffles?

:)

TalonSix
14th August 2014, 10:46 AM
Think of the potential marketing here with a line of multirotors named for small kitchen appliances.

Since I live near the water, I'd like to see a FlyingCinema ImmersionBlender.

terabyte
14th August 2014, 11:46 AM
you think Vitamix will come after me?

astral
14th August 2014, 12:14 PM
Will it be sub-250mm and support 6" props?

i'll see myself out...

hahaha, I don't think enough people have been through the right thread to get this.

bllama
14th August 2014, 12:16 PM
hahaha, I don't think enough people have been through the right thread to get this.


I wish I could show you the ingredients, you will be VERY surprise of what it can do

terabyte
14th August 2014, 12:20 PM
hahaha, I don't think enough people have been through the right thread to get this.

I just did a little math and LOL!!!!!

Rusty105
14th August 2014, 02:10 PM
hahaha, I don't think enough people have been through the right thread to get this.

Well I got it :)

Scotttu
14th August 2014, 03:35 PM
Flying toaster LOL -

http://application.denofgeek.com/images/m/75spaceships/main/CylonRaider.jpg

bllama
15th August 2014, 08:40 AM
Flying toaster LOL -

http://application.denofgeek.com/images/m/75spaceships/main/CylonRaider.jpg


Update coming soon!

TalonSix
15th August 2014, 01:16 PM
Update coming soon!

There already was an update back in 2005:
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/16/tu6atynu.jpg

TalonSix
15th August 2014, 01:17 PM
Oh you mean on the CineToaster! <facepalm>

Holski77
15th August 2014, 05:41 PM
Batteries have to be inserted where the bread usually goes or its not cool

Beachflyer
16th August 2014, 07:49 PM
No batteries, flux capacitor.

Beachflyer
17th August 2014, 08:42 AM
"Toaster".......aka........"Tiny Tank"

bllama
17th August 2014, 10:25 AM
Toaster Corner
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/17/d1cd8607a6c99fdebd9fe6a8129c97d7.jpg

More pictures coming

Beachflyer
17th August 2014, 10:49 AM
Petit four="small oven"=toaster

bllama
17th August 2014, 10:52 AM
Petit four
J'adore le petit four

Beachflyer
17th August 2014, 10:57 AM
I think the Tank clan will as well.

StinkyPete
17th August 2014, 03:03 PM
AHhhhhhhhh stop teasing and put us out of our misery


Toaster Corner
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/17/d1cd8607a6c99fdebd9fe6a8129c97d7.jpg

More pictures coming

Zeeflyboy
17th August 2014, 03:20 PM
is the little white doo-hickey angling the prop?

Beachflyer
18th August 2014, 06:00 PM
Toaster Corner
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/17/d1cd8607a6c99fdebd9fe6a8129c97d7.jpg

More pictures coming
Bllama,
Time for another teaser pic!

McCleary.11
18th August 2014, 07:19 PM
I think you guys will like the Toaster. That's probably all I can say... Lol ;)

the.ronin
18th August 2014, 07:37 PM
Interesting! Will this frame be geared entirely towards sport flying or keep to the theme of Flying Cinema and be more of a small form factor AV platform? If you can keep to sub 300mm with the ability to carry some sort of customized gimbal I am so in (oh and also foldable arms ... I got this thing about foldable arms).

vstanman
18th August 2014, 07:56 PM
I hope we get to see a clear picture and specs soon as I was about to get another small frame, since I have the bigger tank I would wait for this one but for how long i do not know. hehehe

Hmerly
18th August 2014, 09:43 PM
So tired of all the teasing!

bllama
18th August 2014, 10:01 PM
Ok, so we cant really show you pictures or "complete pictures" of Toaster yet because we are still in the developing process. I can say that is smaller than 350 and bigger than 250. We have 2 platforms and we will post some flying videos soon (week or so) and let you guys judge.
It has some very interesting and different features that I WISH I could just show right away....

vstanman
18th August 2014, 10:15 PM
Ok, so we cant really show you pictures or "complete pictures" of Toaster yet because we are still in the developing process. I can say that is smaller than 350 and bigger than 250. We have 2 platforms and we will post some flying videos soon (week or so) and let you guys judge.
It has some very interesting and different features that I WISH I could just show right away....

if it is a 330 based frame I will definitely hold my purchase on the new 330 that is on pre-order and I hope it will be priced much lower than what is available at the moment

Dan_Monger
18th August 2014, 10:26 PM
http://s12.postimg.org/yv4n9u9a5/shut_up_and_take_my_money_9299_800x600.jpg

Im in....I have been looking around for a small platform but haven't decided. As long as it is on par with the Tank then i'm in.

Should really get around to getting some video and images of my tank.

StinkyPete
19th August 2014, 03:30 AM
Humm....i wonder if it would be possible to port over the guts from my 350qx to the toaster? Somthing a bit more sturdy than the eggshell body

Beachflyer
20th August 2014, 08:26 PM
Ok, so we cant really show you pictures or "complete pictures" of Toaster yet because we are still in the developing process. I can say that is smaller than 350 and bigger than 250. We have 2 platforms and we will post some flying videos soon (week or so) and let you guys judge.
It has some very interesting and different features that I WISH I could just show right away....

I just want a good mini basher quad. Got high hopes for the "Tiny Tank".

Zeeflyboy
20th August 2014, 08:37 PM
Well given the great job they did designing the tank, I'm sure your hopes are well founded.

chatch
20th August 2014, 08:52 PM
I hope they find a way to require even more fasteners to assemble each arm. Maybe a multi layer injection mold?

Sinewavz
20th August 2014, 09:16 PM
As long as they aren't Gaui arms that can cause and issue with yaw ;)

chatch
20th August 2014, 09:19 PM
We both know that arm type was popular two years ago, back when terabyte was just a crash test pilot

Sinewavz
20th August 2014, 09:20 PM
It was! I agree

Josh
20th August 2014, 09:27 PM
As long as they aren't Gaui arms that can cause and issue with yaw ;)

You mean these horrible things?

http://fpvlab.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19462&d=1358137654

chatch
20th August 2014, 09:34 PM
You guys are going to need to try a bit harder than that

Josh
20th August 2014, 09:35 PM
To do better than that? I think FC already has done quite better than that, personally. That could be just me though but I do heart the tank.

chatch
20th August 2014, 09:37 PM
Everyone has their opinions. That's what's great about diversity

Josh
20th August 2014, 09:38 PM
True story

Beachflyer
22nd August 2014, 11:15 PM
Come on Flying Cinema, no teasers for a couple of days.
Give us something to keep the fire burning!

Beachflyer
23rd August 2014, 09:18 PM
Ok, so no teasers, news, updates, etc..
How about a material list for needed items to do the build.
Motors, esc's, battery, and etc..

YFZ450MANNY
25th August 2014, 03:42 PM
So... Any news yet? I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on an MXP230 but am super happy with the quality of my CT MK1. You guys got me in a tough position here!.. C'mon guys, give us another quick pic or something that'll inspire me to hold out till the Toaster is released.

bllama
25th August 2014, 04:59 PM
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/25/f3107c961e141a3a4de85ee586d13bf7.jpg


This is a development picture and not final model in any way whatsoever

Beachflyer
25th August 2014, 06:49 PM
Extreme right in picture, possibly the front right motor and the edge of the rear motor mount?
If so I guess it gives an idea of size.

Sinewavz
25th August 2014, 07:05 PM
So... Any news yet? I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on an MXP230 but am super happy with the quality of my CT MK1. You guys got me in a tough position here!.. C'mon guys, give us another quick pic or something that'll inspire me to hold out till the Toaster is released.

Well if you get the MXP230, then your just going to buy this later anyways so..... ;)

Channel 1
25th August 2014, 07:07 PM
Extreme right in picture, possibly the front right motor and the edge of the rear motor mount?
If so I guess it gives an idea of size.

If that is laminate wood flooring, front motor to front motor shaft is going to be about nine inches, if the flooring is tongue and groove hardwood flooring, then it will be about eight inches, from that the size can be determined. ;-)

Wayne

Sinewavz
25th August 2014, 07:08 PM
Good detective work :)

StinkyPete
25th August 2014, 07:40 PM
Guessing scale eh? What about standard m3 bolt sizes? The drilled holes would then be the same size, just measure one at the front and one at the back to take into account the effects of perspective and that gives you length. From a manufacturing point of view it kinda makes sense to have a few parts interchangeable between the two models to save re tooling etc....so motor mounts might be the same or the cf booms.
As its 12.40am here atm and my alarm clock (ie my 3 year old) will be demanding breakfast in 6h ill leave it to someone else to work out the scale :)
Still not sure where to put the bread tho

Channel 1
25th August 2014, 07:50 PM
Still not sure where to put the bread tho

Unless your wallet is subject to spontaneous combustion, keep the bread in it and see what these guys come up with.

Wayne

YFZ450MANNY
25th August 2014, 08:09 PM
Well if you get the MXP230, then your just going to buy this later anyways so..... ;)

Lmao! Dude if I buy another anything that's R/C the wife is going to relocate my sleeping quarters outside! Nah, j/k.. Lol. But honestly, I have waaay too many hobbies and 2 mini quads will just be serious overkill. That's why I'm so torn between the two. The garage is overflowing with big boy toys. "/

Sinewavz
25th August 2014, 08:51 PM
Lmao! Dude if I buy another anything that's R/C the wife is going to relocate my sleeping quarters outside! Nah, j/k.. Lol. But honestly, I have waaay too many hobbies and 2 mini quads will just be serious overkill. That's why I'm so torn between the two. The garage is overflowing with big boy toys. "/

Lmao too!! I sooo thankful my wife understands what flying means to me & she will ask me if have flown today...if I haven't she asks me why...hahaha.

Well one thing I will add is that this frame will standout from EVERY frame you have and are looking into....

It may be a sec on the release but Flying Cinema takes pride in their designs (as others do too) and testing. They really want to ensure that the end product will not only leave the end user extremely pleased....but make them fall in love.

starvinmrvn
26th August 2014, 02:05 PM
I cant believe I have been hiding under a rock and missed this thread! woohoo!

Beachflyer
29th August 2014, 08:12 AM
Got bread...I just need...hmmm

starvinmrvn
29th August 2014, 12:25 PM
Got bread...I just need...hmmm

Just need a waffle? Or pop tart? Lol

starvinmrvn
5th September 2014, 10:24 AM
Whats the latest on this thing?

Sinewavz
6th September 2014, 01:39 AM
Hopefully something this weekend :)

Beachflyer
9th September 2014, 10:37 PM
Crickets

Beachflyer
11th September 2014, 09:01 AM
Hurry up, I need a new project!;)

bllama
11th September 2014, 09:15 AM
Hurry up, I need a new project!;)

Hey,
We are working hard on this, its a work in progress project... we know we have something very good that nobody else has and its taking longer as you can see.

If you guys have any good ideas let us know :)

starvinmrvn
11th September 2014, 09:29 AM
How can we have ideas when we don't know what the project is? :eek:

Matt-
11th September 2014, 09:32 AM
Hey,
If you guys have any good ideas let us know :)

Tell us something about the platform!

bllama
11th September 2014, 09:40 AM
All I can say for now its a smaller size ship, not super small bigger than 250mm

starvinmrvn
11th September 2014, 09:45 AM
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/25/f3107c961e141a3a4de85ee586d13bf7.jpg


This is a development picture and not final model in any way whatsoever


All I can say for now its a smaller size ship, not super small bigger than 250mm

But you said that weeks ago ;)

Matt-
11th September 2014, 09:45 AM
All I can say for now its a smaller size ship, not super small bigger than 250mm

I don't mean to be rude, bllama, as I'm genuinely excited to hear what you have to offer. But you announced this platform almost a month ago and have released no information on it.

The excitement is very quickly turning to 'meh'.

starvinmrvn
11th September 2014, 10:00 AM
Insert:


Crickets

bllama
11th September 2014, 10:09 AM
I don't mean to be rude, bllama, as I'm genuinely excited to hear what you have to offer. But you announced this platform almost a month ago and have released no information on it.

The excitement is very quickly turning to 'meh'.

Understand, we rushed a little to announce the platform.

As you know we don't like to show anything that is not working or performing 100% or close to completion. We are developing the product and the reason for this thread was to create some expectancy and excitement.

It is taking longer than we though initially and we apologize but, we can't rush the developing process unfortunately.

Beachflyer
11th September 2014, 10:53 AM
Can you tell us what FC you are using? Atom CC3D maybe?

bllama
11th September 2014, 10:58 AM
Can you tell us what FC you are using? Atom CC3D maybe?

CC3D and Sparky, both work very well. I like sparky a lot more because it has lot more expansion options but they are basically the same flight controller.
we are wet to tray Naze32

Ahmed_A
11th September 2014, 11:56 AM
Can you give us ballpark on motor choices?

Beachflyer
15th September 2014, 07:38 PM
Crickets.........again
If you need a beta tester I'm ready for another project!

Beachflyer
26th September 2014, 05:16 PM
;)Toast must have landed jelly side down!

Channel 1
26th September 2014, 07:31 PM
;)Toast must have landed jelly side down!

Maybe you cannot see it beacuse they are toasting out of Stevie Wonder Bread.

52141

I know the 3D glasses are a cruel joke, but he'll never see it. :rolleyes:

Wayne

Beachflyer
26th September 2014, 07:52 PM
LMAO!

TitanFlyer
29th September 2014, 07:55 AM
Sub

StinkyPete
30th September 2014, 10:13 AM
better hurry up or us Europeans will not get it in time for christmass!


:)


go on, just a picture?

TalonSix
3rd October 2014, 06:52 PM
<crickets>

Matt-
10th October 2014, 03:33 AM
It's been a week since the last post so I thought I'd give the thread a gentle nudge.

Any chance on a photo of a development platform?

;-)

bllama
14th October 2014, 12:17 AM
ok,

So here is where we are. We still have some work to do but you can see the size in relationship with the 423mm CineTank.

http://s30.postimg.org/p8om9l9xt/Toaster.jpg

pravesh736
14th October 2014, 12:33 AM
one more idea-
just print some new motor mounts which provide angled motors for racing as hop up parts . :)

Josh
14th October 2014, 02:16 AM
Yes that!

Matt-
14th October 2014, 03:32 AM
So here is where we are.

That looks seriously cool -- thanks for the photo, bllama!

Ahmed_A
14th October 2014, 03:24 PM
Picture is not loading up for me :confused:

bllama
14th October 2014, 03:31 PM
Picture is not loading up for me :confused:

try again, or in another browser, I made sure it was up!

Ahmed_A
14th October 2014, 03:42 PM
Got it thanks, I guess my work network was blocking me. Had to see it on my phone. Looks great a mini tank. Thanks

TitanFlyer
14th October 2014, 03:48 PM
one more idea-
just print some new motor mounts which provide angled motors for racing as hop up parts . :)

Great idea, but they don't even have to print new motor mounts.. just drill another hole in the frame side of the booms that is offset by 10 degrees and then the builder would have a choice of level or 10 degrees offset. I think the challenge will be tuning the FC to fly with it that way... its been done but not sure how hard it is.

TitanFlyer
14th October 2014, 03:51 PM
Out of curiosity, how much is it going to weigh and what motors/props/battery are you designing it around.. looks a little plump for a mini...not a criticism, just a question.

bllama
14th October 2014, 03:51 PM
You just need to add the 10 deg to the FC and tune normally

There's still some work to do and we have some other stuff coming up so we been working slow on this one...

Ian Davidson
14th October 2014, 03:52 PM
ok,

So here is where we are. We still have some work to do but you can see the size in relationship with the 423mm CineTank.



Confused. This is the same photo as the one you posted on the 25th August? :confused:

bllama
14th October 2014, 03:53 PM
Confused. This is the same photo as the one you posted on the 25th August? :confused:
Yes

TitanFlyer
14th October 2014, 03:54 PM
You just need to add the 10 deg to the FC and tune normally

There's still some work to do and we have some other stuff coming up so we been working slow on this one...

There is a way to tune (at least the Naze32) for flying like that from what I have been told. Some of the Black Mamba guys are doing it... no need to try and prop up the FC is there? If its possible, then you could just load a new config onto the naze in the field and rotate the arms. That way its more of a hop up that you can reverse easily.. just thinking out loud... lol

Josh
14th October 2014, 06:20 PM
Great idea, but they don't even have to print new motor mounts.. just drill another hole in the frame side of the booms that is offset by 10 degrees and then the builder would have a choice of level or 10 degrees offset. I think the challenge will be tuning the FC to fly with it that way... its been done but not sure how hard it is.
I don't think that would have the desired effect. Rotating the booms 10 degrees on that axis would also turn the front motors inwards and the back motors outward. I would think we'd want all 4 motors to maintain the same front-to-back orientation while leaning forward - which would require different motor mounts, and also less tuning considerations in the FC. It would also require an interesting landing gear lol but that can be skipped in favor of landing in David's hands :)

TitanFlyer
14th October 2014, 06:46 PM
I don't think that would have the desired effect. Rotating the booms 10 degrees on that axis would also turn the front motors inwards and the back motors outward. I would think we'd want all 4 motors to maintain the same front-to-back orientation while leaning forward - which would require different motor mounts, and also less tuning considerations in the FC. It would also require an interesting landing gear lol but that can be skipped in favor of landing in David's hands :)

Not sure how i made my post look like I was saying to splay out the motors front and back, I meant (just like the Gemini and Black Mamba) to rotate all motors 10 degrees forward. Also, agree that it definately would need some good landing gear, but we have been asking for that since the beginning of the cinetank lineup anyways... might force the issue. Not to scratch a scab, but not sure how come we can't put landing gear on the 3D printed motor mounts, or on the booms or whatever.. seems pretty simple, but I am not a designer.. lol

Flying Monkey
14th October 2014, 09:51 PM
Not sure how i made my post look like I was saying to splay out the motors front and back



Great idea, but they don't even have to print new motor mounts.. just drill another hole in the frame side of the booms that is offset by 10 degrees and then the builder would have a choice of level or 10 degrees offset.

If you're rotating the motors on the booms (or rotating the whole boom) then the rotational axis is inline with the booms, hence...



Rotating the booms 10 degrees on that axis would also turn the front motors inwards and the back motors outward.


Just simple geometry. So... you need new 3d printed motor mounts to tilt the motors forward (and forward only) by 10 degrees.

Josh
14th October 2014, 11:47 PM
There are 3D Printable landing gears though..

Josh
14th October 2014, 11:54 PM
Look here for my tubes here, and links to the rest in the description

http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:420911

TitanFlyer
15th October 2014, 08:05 AM
If you're rotating the motors on the booms (or rotating the whole boom) then the rotational axis is inline with the booms, hence...

Just simple geometry. So... you need new 3d printed motor mounts to tilt the motors forward (and forward only) by 10 degrees.

Ha.. wow, have I slipped in my simple geometry.. two engineering degrees and I still can't figure out why you think that you need new 3D printed mounts to simply tilt all 4 motors 10 degrees forward. It makes total sense in my head that rotating the booms all in the same direction 10 degrees would do the exact same thing, just easier, but I am totally willing to accept what you guys are saying.

Josh, I love that you developed those landing gear for everyone, but I don't have a 3D printer and honestly I don't like the gear in that position (I actually have the carbon booms but all of the bases split on me, so I have asked for new ones from FlyingCinema)... I want to take advantage of the width of the cinetank arms and put gear out there for stability.

For both points, and I am probably breaking all protocol of good netiquette here (please feel free to remove this link if you want) I found a video that describes exactly what I mean on the rotating of the booms and at the same time the gear that I would love to see on the cinetank. I am linking to the specific part in the video so as not to promote another multicopter (we all love the cinetank more than this one anyway)...

LINKHEREhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiPWPhhqUqc&t=1m40sLINKHERE

Flying Monkey
15th October 2014, 11:46 PM
Ha.. wow, have I slipped in my simple geometry.. two engineering degrees and I still can't figure out why you think that you need new 3D printed mounts to simply tilt all 4 motors 10 degrees forward. It makes total sense in my head that rotating the booms all in the same direction 10 degrees would do the exact same thing, just easier, but I am totally willing to accept what you guys are saying.
I am linking to the specific part in the video so as not to promote another multicopter (we all love the cinetank more than this one anyway)...

LINKHEREhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiPWPhhqUqc&t=1m40sLINKHERE

The arms on that quad come straight out, perpendicular to flight direction. A true H-quad.

The cinetanks both have arms coming out at an angle. A halfway point between a H-quad and a X-quad. So... rotating the motor on the arm means it won't just rotate in one axis, but 3-dimensionally.


http://s30.postimg.org/p8om9l9xt/Toaster.jpg

TitanFlyer
16th October 2014, 07:34 AM
Ah, I totally see that now.. I was in fact looking at an H Quad when I was thinking about this.. total brain fart. Happens way more often now that I am older.

chatch
16th October 2014, 11:25 AM
All this bickering and nobody actually flies well enough for it to make a difference even if you lost half a prop.

Josh
16th October 2014, 11:27 AM
Not sure what that has to do with anything on this thread

TitanFlyer
16th October 2014, 11:27 AM
All this bickering and nobody actually flies well enough for it to make a difference even if you lost half a prop.

I noticed.. so I cut the other three down to half size and it flies great now.. not a lot of lift though.

PS - Not outraged, so I quoted your bullshit.

TitanFlyer
16th October 2014, 11:29 AM
All this bickering and nobody actually flies well enough for it to make a difference even if you lost half a prop.


Plus, we weren't bickering.. these gents were simply pointing out how dumb I was for looking at an H quad instead of my Cinetank when making a silly suggestion.... if thats what you mean.

Josh
16th October 2014, 11:30 AM
TitanFlyer I forgot to mention, if you want some of those 3D Printed parts, PM me and we'll figure something out.

Josh
16th October 2014, 11:30 AM
Nah not dumb.. lol it's a good conversation!

Sinewavz
17th October 2014, 02:08 PM
52979

F11music.com
19th October 2014, 09:00 AM
Making it a true H would give more room for electronics to be spaced apart.

1sq
25th October 2014, 06:27 PM
Nice little quad.
To tilt the motors straight fwd in direction the existing mounts needs to be redesign to have an angle instead of square as they are.


EDIT: FPVMONKEY mentioned the solution 2 pages back, next time ill read prior posts, hehehhee

Beachflyer
5th December 2014, 08:32 PM
Think the Toaster came unplugged.

nate25j
21st December 2014, 02:39 PM
Making any head way on the toaster project??

bllama
4th January 2015, 03:49 PM
Yes!!

Sinewavz
4th January 2015, 03:57 PM
[emoji6]

NinjaToes
4th January 2015, 04:07 PM
We have life :D

nate25j
4th January 2015, 04:20 PM
Wahoo!!! I'm ready for this!

bllama
4th January 2015, 04:21 PM
Yes we are full on with it finally

StinkyPete
4th January 2015, 08:28 PM
Hurryuphurryuphurryup

landshark77
4th January 2015, 11:37 PM
Cool! Go Team Go!!!

bllama
11th January 2015, 09:36 PM
Some cool stuff!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyXK-UCmvqs&feature=youtu.be

TalonSix
11th January 2015, 09:52 PM
Tease

NinjaToes
11th January 2015, 09:53 PM
:p we want more


Tease

bllama
11th January 2015, 09:54 PM
This is actually the production model. We rushed to announce the toaster a couple of moths a go and since have designated 3 different platforms. This is the one we are moving forward with finally.

Qbang
11th January 2015, 11:51 PM
Let's see the real deal!!

StinkyPete
12th January 2015, 07:11 PM
Any hint on specs yet? 3s? Ballpark flight times? Discount for mk1 owners? :-)

NinjaToes
12th January 2015, 07:41 PM
I like the way you think :D


Discount for mk1 owners? :-)

TalonSix
31st January 2015, 09:02 AM
Any updates? I'm chomping at the bit to get into the whole mini quad thing...

l3vit8te
7th February 2015, 03:39 AM
I'm late to the thread, but my Cinetank MK1 is the best designed copter i have flown and i can't wait to see this.

l3vit8te
7th February 2015, 03:41 AM
Any hint on specs yet? 3s? Ballpark flight times? Discount for mk1 owners? :-)

:) i second that emotion

bllama
7th February 2015, 12:43 PM
Oh yeah!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ7kk4K7Gec&feature=em-subscription-upload

Leviathan
7th February 2015, 02:35 PM
Guess what...

It's coming...

Known as Tankito. AKA Toaster

This is my maiden flight of the Tankito prototype. This thing is the most fun frame I've ever flown. I haven't even come close to the potential of this thing. I can't wait to fly it again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFKmqxaGxPY&feature=youtu.be

l3vit8te
7th February 2015, 06:45 PM
y'all ciné hoes need to stop teasing and give up the goods! :) lol!!!!

l3vit8te
7th February 2015, 07:27 PM
this is the first announcements i have seen that i am truly impatient for. You guys did an amazing job with the Cinetank MK1 and MK2 and i am sure this will be a innovative well designed product also

Leviathan
7th February 2015, 07:46 PM
this is the first announcements i have seen that i am truly impatient for. You guys did an amazing job with the Cinetank MK1 and MK2 and i am sure this will be a innovative well designed product also
It will be well worth it, I promise. It is almost ready and it has some totally new design ideas not seen yet in any frame.

Leviathan
8th February 2015, 09:21 PM
Another Tankito / toaster prototype video
http://youtu.be/66Q21KFXCLE

l3vit8te
8th February 2015, 09:59 PM
Nice video and editing Leviathan +1

l3vit8te
8th February 2015, 09:59 PM
How much longer must I wait ?

Leviathan
8th February 2015, 10:02 PM
Thank you, I believe the goal is March

bllama
9th February 2015, 11:52 AM
How much longer must I wait ?

End of march we might start doing pre-sales some time in march first or second week.

Rusty105
9th February 2015, 01:38 PM
End of march we might start doing pre-sales some time in march first or second week.

PICS???

bllama
9th February 2015, 01:41 PM
PICS???

To sensitive to get copied right away.

chatch
9th February 2015, 02:28 PM
i'm watching!

bllama
9th February 2015, 02:31 PM
i'm watching!
That's always a good thing :)

Josh
9th February 2015, 03:52 PM
Not as cool as Levi's and I still have some tuning to do but you can see this thing has some speed to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfd42nZTRJY
Obviously a test-and-tune video, not a cinematic masterpiece, but you can get some ideas about capabilities from it I hope


Edit: the magic as at 2:30, and then I ran out of battery :)

Leviathan
9th February 2015, 03:54 PM
If you'd cut your vid it'd be better then mine. Your flying is already better.

Leviathan
9th February 2015, 03:54 PM
Not that it matters

Josh
9th February 2015, 03:56 PM
Maybe if I can get your PIDs it'll be better

Leviathan
9th February 2015, 03:58 PM
Um, earth to josh, I did already

Derrick
9th February 2015, 04:12 PM
What electronics are you using (motors, ESCs and FC)? I assume kiss ESCs?

Leviathan
9th February 2015, 04:14 PM
Me ztw 20a blheli and oneshot125. SunnySky 2207 2100kv and naze 32 cleanflight

Derrick
9th February 2015, 04:19 PM
Me ztw 20a blheli and oneshot125. SunnySky 2207 2100kv and naze 32 cleanflight

Looks like it had loads of power and oneshot... How are you liking the 2207s?

Leviathan
9th February 2015, 04:23 PM
Love them so far. I haven't pushed it yet cause the motors pulled 28+ amps on a bench test and I have 20a escs. I waiting for the core pnp to arive so u can see how many amps they pull during flight.

Leviathan
9th February 2015, 04:23 PM
Josh has kiss esc coming any day

Derrick
9th February 2015, 04:26 PM
nice, I want to try them... just can't justify the cost yet.

Josh
9th February 2015, 04:37 PM
I'm not sure what David is comfortable with me releasing yet, but I'll tell you that while I do have Kiss ESCs on order, they are not installed. I think the 18a's will be enough for what I'm running, but haven't measured yet to verify.


I'm running a full Naze32 with Cleanflight installed, and AutoTune was comically horrible.. especially the part where it gave up, threw a tantrum, rolled inverted from 40ft and went full throttle. I guess it was done flying for a few minutes while I replaced props and went back to my previous PIDs.


Edit: I just saw Levi mentioned his power system and he wouldn't have done that w/o David being ok... I'm running Cobra 2208 2000kv motors, HQ 6x4.5 props, with Cobra 20A Opto MR ESCs (and I'm not entirely convinced on these yet - anyone know if they are programmable?) and the A-spec 2200 4S battery.


I'm also running 2.4GHz video and EzUHF for control. This is my first 2.4GHz system and I'm very happy!

StinkyPete
10th February 2015, 05:41 PM
aiming for march eh? ok guys you have until the 14th ok?
Birthday is at the end of the month and it takes at least 10 days to get here from the states.....aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand go!
:D

bllama
13th February 2015, 11:28 AM
aiming for march eh? ok guys you have until the 14th ok?
Birthday is at the end of the month and it takes at least 10 days to get here from the states.....aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand go!
:D

We wish it was that easy :)

happy birthday mate

StinkyPete
17th February 2015, 04:51 AM
:D
might start getting ESCs and bits tho

starvinmrvn
25th February 2015, 08:53 PM
I use the Cobra esc's. Is there a feature or a reason you need to program them? Just curious. I'm very happy with them since I DON'T have to program.

Josh
25th February 2015, 09:29 PM
I didn't have that great of luck tuning them for the cobra 2208-2000's, they seemed to fall out of sync. Well one in particular did most noticeably so maybe I had a bad one?

Josh
28th February 2015, 03:04 PM
I had several desync issues with them, and I don't think they're capable of semi-aggressive flight even with their own 2000kv motors. I swapped them out with ZTW's and BLHeli 13.1 and the desync issues are gone. That's why I asked if anyone knows if they can be programmed (I've since verified they cannot).
Everything is better now with the BLHelis and now I can fine tune. It may have just been my luck, and it was always the same corner that was seeming to desync even after a motor swap. I have them on the bench if you want to buy them cheap! :)

starvinmrvn
28th February 2015, 09:53 PM
I have had 14 cobra esc's with no issues. I have 10 on current quads and have never experienced any sync issues.

Have always ran mine with cobra 2208 2000kv and 2213 2000kv on 4s.

Not to sound combative. Just offering another data point.

Will

starvinmrvn
1st March 2015, 12:03 AM
Josh were you using 12amp esc?

Josh
2nd March 2015, 05:04 PM
I really appreciate the feedback! I was using the 20's. I fully expected them to work too, bummer they gave me issues but the more I think about it the more I wonder if perhaps I just have ONE bad esc or something.

starvinmrvn
3rd March 2015, 11:55 AM
I really appreciate the feedback! I was using the 20's. I fully expected them to work too, bummer they gave me issues but the more I think about it the more I wonder if perhaps I just have ONE bad esc or something.


Darn! ok. Never mind then. I was going to suggest some changes if you were using their 12amp esc. I just plugged their 20 and 30 amps in and they have worked for me. Luckily ESC's are everywhere!


-Will

Rusty105
3rd March 2015, 01:46 PM
So no sneak peeks yet?

Can I get a M-M size at least?
I am looking to fly a new mini this summer, so waiting on this.... Maybe

Josh
4th March 2015, 05:10 PM
There are options coming. 295 for sure, and David is prototyping 250 and 280 versions as well. The videos you've seen so far are on the 295 version, 2208 2000kv motors (I think Levi has the 2207 ones?) and 6" props.

it's pretty fast..

Leviathan
4th March 2015, 05:12 PM
Look for a video posted tonight. You may or may not see a small glimpse of one flying around.

Josh
4th March 2015, 05:13 PM
Indeed!

Rusty105
4th March 2015, 05:40 PM
Just leave a linky

chatch
4th March 2015, 05:48 PM
I TOOK A LEAKY

Josh
4th March 2015, 08:40 PM
Ok well here are my horrible tuning skills in action... I actually intended the first part of this video to be a request for help with Cleanflight Pid Controller 1 and oneshot (ztw w/ blheli), but I realized as uploading the video my Looptime got set back to 3500, so, I've changed that to 1500 and changed a couple other things and will retest tomorrow. Changing my Roll D terms from as low as 23 (normally run 30-33) to as high as 60 didn't get rid of these shakes.


Anyways, here you go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZakEbKp2S1Q

Chile Vuela
4th March 2015, 10:28 PM
Are you sure you're on controller 1? I had the same vibrations on my mini at high rpms (even using oneshot) that I just couldn't tune out... until I realized that somehow I was still using controller 0! d'oh!

Josh
4th March 2015, 11:29 PM
Are you sure you're on controller 1? I had the same vibrations on my mini at high rpms (even using oneshot) that I just couldn't tune out... until I realized that somehow I was still using controller 0! d'oh!

Yes I'm sure. If you check the description of the video you'll see the output of "dump" but scaled down to the important stuff.

Josh
5th March 2015, 11:19 AM
Das meeeee!! Woohoo! [emoji12]

Leviathan
5th March 2015, 11:20 AM
How did you watch it so fast?

Josh
5th March 2015, 11:20 AM
Pretty sure I'm clairvoyant

Farmernz
5th March 2015, 02:58 PM
so we will see it properly soon!

Leviathan
6th March 2015, 03:12 AM
It was a fun Lunch break today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u_H5aOlnbE

Leviathan
9th March 2015, 01:57 AM
Another Tankito teaser. Windy as all hell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfhqxkcLk5Q&feature=youtu.be

Leerogers
9th March 2015, 09:35 AM
lookin awesome man

Leerogers
15th March 2015, 01:33 PM
Any updates? or photos?

Leviathan
15th March 2015, 01:35 PM
Last revisions being cut today. A few test flights and we are good to go. Pics maybe this week and pre orders will be taken soon.

Leerogers
15th March 2015, 01:37 PM
Awesome thanks for the update

StinkyPete
15th March 2015, 03:04 PM
:) good work guys, really looking forward to seeing the tankito for the first tim

Leviathan
27th March 2015, 11:36 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dBYGuuCOX0

Leviathan
27th March 2015, 11:37 AM
Making a final change, just waiting for the materials.

Leviathan
27th March 2015, 11:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7sJ3sbN7j0&feature=youtu.be

bllama
27th March 2015, 05:57 PM
finally!! why are you taking that long man!!

Leviathan
27th March 2015, 06:12 PM
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, it's just that. ..wait, it's YOUR design, what's taking YOU so long man?

Farmernz
27th March 2015, 09:02 PM
nice vids. how long to it is revealed?.

Leviathan
27th March 2015, 09:49 PM
Maybe tonight

Leerogers
28th March 2015, 09:51 AM
Im itching to see it man!!

Leerogers
28th March 2015, 10:21 AM
0:22 sec in on your park fly fun video, that little shot of it just isn't enough lol!!

Leviathan
28th March 2015, 11:19 AM
Here it is!!! This is the Flying Cinema Tankito30. It is a 300 size racing/acro quad copter. David (Bllama) has been working freakishly hard on making this perfect and it is well worth the wait. There are many quad-copter 1st's on this design which is why it has been a little over protected; Flying Cinema has had some "design jacking" in the past by competitors. Motors are forward 10degrees. Flight cam and gopro/mobius are tilted 10 degrees back for a total of +20 degrees viewing plane. There are 2 other versions almost complete based off of the same platform, the Tankito28 and the tankito25 which are 280mm and 250mm respectively and will be released soon after the 30. Pre-orders for the Tankito30 will be taken Saturday the 4th of April and will be the first of the orders filled.

More details coming soon.


https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8691/16957626885_4d2cab63cf_c.jpg

landshark77
28th March 2015, 12:56 PM
OMG! That lil beast looks amazing, I'm in...fo sho!!!

AeroMaestro
28th March 2015, 01:14 PM
I'm soooooo happy with my Cinetank. I will definitely want one of these little guys for fun flyin --- and then I can grow the tank with the long arms and gimbal.
Whoooo boy. I see my future, and a lot of it involves handing money over to FlyingCinema.

Highoctane
28th March 2015, 04:04 PM
Looks NICE! Just so happens I've been looking at frames in this size range. I've got the itch to try a smaller frame with a spare ET Vector I have. Estimated ship date? Maybe I can hold out :)

seafurymike
28th March 2015, 04:43 PM
Very interesting way to isolate vibrations on the camera. Gets rid of 1 entire plate on the clean/dirty by doing it this way. Nice going guys.

I just literally maidened my V2 LOS & then FPV yesterday. I love it so far. I can imagine this will handle very well too.

HelliYea
28th March 2015, 06:32 PM
Looks great. Can't wait to see more. Where does the fpv cam go? Is there room under the gopro?

Leviathan
28th March 2015, 06:33 PM
Looks great. Can't wait to see more. Where does the fpv cam go? Is there room under the gopro?
Yes, it goes under the gopro

bllama
28th March 2015, 06:35 PM
Looks great. Can't wait to see more. Where does the fpv cam go? Is there room under the gopro?
In the middle of the fuselage under the GoPro

AeroMaestro
28th March 2015, 07:53 PM
Any mounting options for a mobius instead?

Chile Vuela
28th March 2015, 09:23 PM
Looking good, gentlemen. Will there be an option to have non-angled motor mounts (I'm thinking for pure acro type frames, rather than the balls-to-the-wall racers)?

What sort of price are we looking at?

Leviathan
28th March 2015, 09:24 PM
Any mounting options for a mobius instead?
Yes, mobius mount will be there

Leviathan
28th March 2015, 09:25 PM
Looking good, gentlemen. Will there be an option to have non-angled motor mounts (I'm thinking for pure acro type frames, rather than the balls-to-the-wall racers)?

What sort of price are we looking at?
Yes that will be possible

seafurymike
29th March 2015, 06:13 AM
Here is my Cinetank MK2 "FPV maiden" from today.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qle9xcecX6k&feature=youtu.be

StinkyPete
29th March 2015, 11:00 AM
Ill let you off missing my birthday as it looks really cool! Do we have any idea what the lead time will be?

NinjaToes
29th March 2015, 11:01 AM
Any higher resolution pictures of the toaster ?

bllama
29th March 2015, 11:05 AM
Looking good, gentlemen. Will there be an option to have non-angled motor mounts (I'm thinking for pure acro type frames, rather than the balls-to-the-wall racers)?

What sort of price are we looking at?


The frame can be assemble with flat arms for normal flying or tilted arms for speed. The spacers will work for both options.



Ill let you off missing my birthday as it looks really cool! Do we have any idea what the lead time will be?


We are arranging the last parts of the productions, we should most of the information by the pre-sale date.

Leviathan
29th March 2015, 11:21 AM
Ill let you off missing my birthday as it looks really cool! Do we have any idea what the lead time will be?
The pre-orders will start being cut immediately and should start to ship within a week or two. Regular availability should come a month to 6 weeks

Leviathan
29th March 2015, 11:22 AM
Any higher resolution pictures of the toaster ?
Within the week some better pictures will be available

NinjaToes
29th March 2015, 11:27 AM
Within the week some better pictures will be available

thank you :)

slievar
29th March 2015, 03:45 PM
Nice looking frame! Seems to have all you would want in the same package, tilted motors, 6-inch props, isolated GoPro mount, tilted cameras :D

What does the bare frame weight in at?

Leviathan
30th March 2015, 02:17 AM
Tankito30 Porn

http://youtu.be/EbbeEZkaKkM

HelliYea
30th March 2015, 05:37 AM
Will the Tankito28 and the Tankito25 share the body with the Tankito30 and just have shorter arms, or is the entire frame / body scaled down?

bllama
30th March 2015, 07:00 AM
Will the Tankito28 and the Tankito25 share the body with the Tankito30 and just have shorter arms, or is the entire frame / body scaled down?
The main fuselage will be different but with all the same features. The 30 it's bigger and can even use the motor mounts of the CineTank so it can potentially have 8in props. The 25 and 28 will be slimmer.

HelliYea
30th March 2015, 07:14 AM
The main fuselage will be different but with all the same features. The 30 it's bigger and can even use the motor mounts of the CineTank so it can potentially have 8in props. The 25 and 28 will be slimmer.

Thanks - I'm really interested in the 250 / Tankito25 when it comes out. Keen to see its body size and ability to hold a gopro. Good luck with the launch guys - great looking frame with cool features. Should be another winner.

Highoctane
30th March 2015, 08:04 PM
Tankito30 Porn

http://youtu.be/EbbeEZkaKkM

Nice..full parts rundown? Motors ESCs props, FC, ect

Leviathan
30th March 2015, 08:09 PM
Oh yeah, sorry. Thanks for asking.
Naze32 cleanflight pid control 1
Sunny 2207 2100kv
Ztw opto 20a esc
6X4.5 HQ props
A-spec 2200 4s
Core pnp50 osd
Ezuhf 433mhz
600mw 1.3 vtx

Chile Vuela
30th March 2015, 09:19 PM
Does the PNP50 actually register useful amp information? And how do you find the filtering? I ended up powering my video system from my IRC vtx in the end because the interference was just too much.

Highoctane
30th March 2015, 09:28 PM
Thanks.


Orders open at 12:01am 4 Apr? Lol. Sign me up if they are shipping within a week or so.
Well..that's tentative if the price is reasonable of course :)
Looking forward to more detailed pics and info..demensions ect. I'd like to try a Vector on it..if it fit ok.

bllama
31st March 2015, 08:51 AM
We will do out best to start shipping with in 2-3 weeks. Because we are releasing basically 2 different frames it takes a little time to line up all the production and that is what we are doing right now.

Leviathan
31st March 2015, 12:55 PM
Does the PNP50 actually register useful amp information? And how do you find the filtering? I ended up powering my video system from my IRC vtx in the end because the interference was just too much.
It seems to work good, It shows about 80 amps at close to full throttle. Video is perfect, no lines at all. Use what works for you.

Ahmed_A
4th April 2015, 10:21 AM
Did it go for pre-order yet? don't see it in the website.

Leviathan
4th April 2015, 10:56 AM
4pm ET the website will have the presale

Leviathan
4th April 2015, 11:16 AM
More details will be flowing in periodically throughout the day

Leviathan
4th April 2015, 04:25 PM
Regular price of the Tankito30 will be $154.00usd. The preorder Tankito's will discounted for the 1st 25 orders. The site will be up within the hour as well as specs and features so keep checking Flyingcinema.com

Leviathan
4th April 2015, 04:26 PM
Sorry for the delays, these things never go as planned.