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chatch
15th July 2013, 05:00 AM
This quad frame is designed to be the smallest quad possible for carrying "real" FPV equipment.
- A "real" CCD camera(vs pico cams)
- UHF LRS
-2.3GHz video for incredible range.

http://REALfpv.com


RETAILERS:
OHIO USA BASED - Ready Made RC, LLC - http://www.readymaderc.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=76_284&products_id=2355

FLORIDA USA BASED - GetFPV - http://www.getfpv.com

CALI BASED - Multirotor Superstore - http://www.multirotorsuperstore.com/frames/spanky-mini-fpv.html

UK - Flite FPV - http://www.flitefpv.com/epages/BT4685.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/BT4685/Products/spanky

UK - MULTIROTOR PARTS UK - http://multirotorparts.co.uk/shop/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=50

SINGAPORE - DroneMatters - http://www.dronematters.com/index.php/spanky-mini.html

http://i.imgur.com/ac78QEt.jpg



motor:
3s - 1900-2200kv
2s - 3100kv
less than 24mm can diameter, over 40 watts

esc-6-12a

3s 1300 or 2s 1500mah

Hans
15th July 2013, 05:03 AM
Sub'd yo.

boopidoo
15th July 2013, 05:03 AM
I like it! :)

felixrising
15th July 2013, 05:43 AM
Shut up and take my money!

realtvnow FPV
15th July 2013, 06:20 AM
Me like!

carsonco
15th July 2013, 08:09 AM
Dam! I was just telling the GF yesterday that my next build was going to be a mini quad... I'll be watching for more details!

do you have a target mAh for the batt?
how about motors?

viper522
15th July 2013, 09:19 AM
me likey, nice work christopher

airbagit13
15th July 2013, 11:18 AM
Sign me up, I'll take one.

Derrick
15th July 2013, 11:28 AM
Looks great.

I am curious about having a single piece plate and arms... do your best to try and break an arm! It should be pretty hard to do given the size and weight of this little guy, but could be a potential point of failure/PITA for repair. I have a few hexTronik 5gram Brushless Outrunner 2000kv (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=6312) that might just find a nice home in a frame like this. What options are their for ESCs in the 5-10amp range (with SimonK or similar flash)? What battery size are you looking at (I have a few 2s 800mAh sitting around)?

chatch
15th July 2013, 11:41 AM
i'm using 3.175mm G10 for the prototype and possibly 3mm thick carbon fiber if it's too weak. i can also look at detaching the arms, but for my personal quad i'm totally fine with one piece.

i would have to rework the bobbin layout if the arms are sandwiched like a "normal" frame. right now it fits perfectly if i put a normal M3 nut on either side of the bobbins before attaching them.

A 1300mAh 3S battery is pictured in the drawing. I will be using 1900-2200kv motors on 3S. 3000-3300kv will work on 2S. This will be another 3D quad for me, so I am using blueseries 12A ESC. they are very small and can take the spike of reversing motor direction.

the quad is balanced very well with the components placed exactly as above.

viper522
15th July 2013, 11:41 AM
Looks great.

I am curious about having a single piece plate and arms... do your best to try and break an arm! It should be pretty hard to do given the size and weight of this little guy, but could be a potential point of failure/PITA for repair. I have a few hexTronik 5gram Brushless Outrunner 2000kv (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=6312) that might just find a nice home in a frame like this. What options are their for ESCs in the 5-10amp range (with SimonK or similar flash)? What battery size are you looking at (I have a few 2s 800mAh sitting around)?

Here's the spreadsheet listed with amps

http://wiki.openpilot.org/display/Doc/RapidESC+Database

viper522
15th July 2013, 11:43 AM
This will be a peeping-tom quad for me

uh huh

Derrick
15th July 2013, 11:45 AM
i'm using 3.175mm G10 for the prototype and possibly 3mm thick carbon fiber if it's too weak. i can also look at detaching the arms, but for my personal quad i'm totally fine with one piece.

i would have to rework the bobbin layout if the arms are sandwiched like a "normal" frame. right now it fits perfectly if i put a normal M3 nut on either side of the bobbins before attaching them.

A 1300mAh 3S battery is pictured in the drawing. I will be using 1900-2200kv motors on 3S. 3000-3300kv will work on 2S. This will be another 3D quad for me, so I am using blueseries 12A ESC. they are very small and can take the spike of reversing motor direction.

the quad is balanced very well with the components placed exactly as above.

Is there a custom firmware load for, reversible ESCs on quads? I am pretty far out of the loop on acro quads, been focused on planes the last few months. Been watching your vids though and am very impressed at the capabilities.


Here's the spreadsheet listed with amps

http://wiki.openpilot.org/display/Doc/RapidESC+Database

Thank you.

chatch
15th July 2013, 11:45 AM
uh huh

the neighborhood trollcopter!!! I'll put a pepperbox on my roof :)

for the 3D firmware it only works with a few ESC and motors, we're still working on quicker startup etc.

and there aren't any decent 3D props available. on top of that + Naze32 being the only FC to support it(unofficially) it is not that popular. I don't think you will see a CC3D fly upside down, which is quite ironic :)

kenkos68
15th July 2013, 01:56 PM
Nice! I want one!

swillhide
15th July 2013, 02:10 PM
I do want one. chop chop with the build Chris.

j45on
15th July 2013, 02:11 PM
Looks great
What size props are you going to use ?

viper522
15th July 2013, 02:12 PM
Looks great
What size props are you going to use ?

5x3

afinegan
15th July 2013, 02:25 PM
Hey chris,

Rebuilt my nanoquad - doubled the frame up (2 new frames, drilled solder joints out of second one) and epoxied it so the impervious to crash (it was pretty much crash proof from the get go).
The original nanoquad I had at the patch was 80g weight and 710g of thrust, so with those 4 * tiger MT-1306 3100kv 2s motors, you can easily make this copter crash proof imo. THis will be the new FUN quad due to its durability and will easily have the "chatch power" stamp lol

Sign me up for this(beta? lol), I had so much fun flying my nanoquad around with that power, this has to be the next step! - anything that can take a crash and not break (props are ok) is badass in my book, you can try acrobatics and dodge stuff without worry!

Demo of the power of the 4 3100kv tiger motors - this is my nanoquad carrying a gopro around WITH the pico fpv gear (2:07 in the video - the gopro was velcroed right onto the frame)
https://vimeo.com/69217321#t=128

29183

The power lol (so you can imagine how much fun this can be!)

https://vimeo.com/53111747

wiggysk
15th July 2013, 03:05 PM
i must have one :D

Carbon
15th July 2013, 03:15 PM
Cool Chatch, subbed. I implore you to make it a cool color unlike all the black quads around. Pink? Green?

terabyte
15th July 2013, 04:00 PM
'bout damn time boy! :D Happy to see this bro.

swillhide
15th July 2013, 04:04 PM
+1 On the colors! that would be sweet. Neon Green gets my vote.

terabyte
15th July 2013, 04:19 PM
Florescent yellow ftw!

Derrick
15th July 2013, 04:44 PM
Florescent yellow ftw!

That is a pretty good color, but not much beats orange and black trim.

terabyte
15th July 2013, 04:47 PM
ikea yellow and blue are the only color combo that beat orange\black

exige
15th July 2013, 04:50 PM
This looks great. How soon will they hit retail if your testing proves fruitful?

Derrick
15th July 2013, 04:51 PM
ikea yellow and blue are the only color combo that beat orange\black

That could work, I am thinking propellers too. Can you get them in ikea yellow or blue?

felixrising
15th July 2013, 09:16 PM
You know you're on a good thing when the only thing people can't agree on is the colour! :)

Clearly silver frame and lime green accessories is the SUPERIOR colour choice...

Carbon
15th July 2013, 09:19 PM
I'd have to go for silver and sky blue..

Blackout
17th July 2013, 12:20 AM
Very nice ! What are the MTM dimensions?

chatch
17th July 2013, 12:29 AM
250mm

airbagit13
17th July 2013, 12:59 AM
All you fools keep your grubby hands away. First dibs.

afinegan
17th July 2013, 01:22 AM
Fixed my old nanoquad, she lives again, even though instead of 80g of weight, she weights 180g now (due to epoxy and second frame) - still has lots of power, I am not worried (she should be crashproof too now)

But I would like an epic long range miniquad like this one! lol

terabyte
17th July 2013, 09:56 AM
Sorry fookers. I have first dibs

p25o1
17th July 2013, 01:41 PM
nice frame / size,

i want a mini H frame,

plz consider having the lower board as an integrated power distribution

i'm thinking of the below motors, what do you think ?

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__8142__Turnigy_1811_brushless_Outrunner_2900kv.ht ml
or
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__8476__Turnigy_1811_Brushless_Indoor_Motor_1800kv .html

chatch
17th July 2013, 04:04 PM
i can do a full distro board if/when i decide to sell the frame. right now it's for me and a few friends. instead of just guessing and running ecalc all day to see what motors to use, i've simply purchased ALL THE MOTORS i could find to individually test them.

so far a1510 are promising but you will need to buy 10 motors to receive 4 working motors, and even by then they are unbalanced and need CA on the shaft. but the power is there

chatch
17th July 2013, 04:07 PM
if i really wanted i could build in blueseries12a ESC too...

viper522
17th July 2013, 04:36 PM
Will it have running water and covered parking? basher quad means being able to replace a component at the field, IMO

Derrick
17th July 2013, 04:41 PM
Will it have running water and covered parking? basher quad means being able to replace a component at the field, IMO

+1...

carsonco
17th July 2013, 04:42 PM
Im with viper no built in esc's and as far as distro whats the problem with doing it just like your 400q? Its simple and keeps the cost down.

chatch
17th July 2013, 04:48 PM
that's what it's set up for right now. the 36x36 mini distro board i currently use with the 400Q.

j45on
17th July 2013, 04:52 PM
Can we haz mini quad now plz

swillhide
17th July 2013, 04:55 PM
Yea stop teasing. Where do I send the money? Seriously gimme a good price and its yours.

p25o1
17th July 2013, 05:05 PM
same here , i'm also really intrested in this mini quad, sign me up ,
post a preorder on realfpv.com and i'm in

felixrising
18th July 2013, 04:38 AM
+1 Set up us the bomb!

viper522
18th July 2013, 06:42 AM
We get signal!

chatch
18th July 2013, 07:09 AM
http://realfpv.com/buy.html

scroll to bottom :)

this price is after really rough production numbers, I will try to get the frames out in 2 weeks. by that time i will have posted build video, flights etc. and production numbers will be fully worked out. If I end up lowering it to $74.99 or something you'll definitely get a refund.

airbagit13
18th July 2013, 10:28 AM
Just bought one. First purchase? First quad cut? :)

swillhide
18th July 2013, 11:43 AM
What does it come with?

airbagit13
18th July 2013, 01:03 PM
Just the full frame, bobbins and hardware.

chatch
18th July 2013, 01:45 PM
What does it come with?

plates, bobbins, hardware, a mini power distro board and I'll throw in a voucher for a free hovercraft ride(thx airbagit)

chatch
18th July 2013, 01:46 PM
airbagit was order #6 btw

frames going to 3 continents so far, anyone in Brazil or Asia want one?

terabyte
18th July 2013, 02:05 PM
chatch and you edit the first thread with the recommend esc, batteries and motors?

chatch
18th July 2013, 02:19 PM
updated with specs, really depends if you want 3s or 2s

durangoflyer
18th July 2013, 06:07 PM
Subscribed

Blackout
18th July 2013, 07:36 PM
I had G10 prototypes of my Mini H Quad made. I found 3mm really thick ! haha

The best G10 prototype i had was 3mm Arms and 1mm Plates; it never broke an Arm or Plate.

SMJ
19th July 2013, 01:54 AM
Looks like a QAV400.

Blackout
19th July 2013, 02:05 AM
Probably overkill on the vibration dampening, but at least it's solved :D

Byro
19th July 2013, 02:08 AM
I want, but I need to build what I have... and fly it :)

chatch
19th July 2013, 02:19 AM
Probably overkill on the vibration dampening, but at least it's solved :D

it isolates the flight controller. it gives a better experience to those who play with the low pass filter in multiwii

CaliDave
19th July 2013, 02:42 AM
Sub'd yo.

+1 Cool looking design. I expect you'll put that one to work like your larger quads and that should lead to some cool videos.

chatch
26th July 2013, 01:52 PM
http://i.imgur.com/UsGenGA.jpg

just prototype, natural g10 is what I had in .125

durangoflyer
26th July 2013, 03:18 PM
Keep us posted on pricing, availability and recommended components. I want to do one this size with the $15 Witespy MultiWii board that fly's so well, is small and weighs less than 5 grams without header pins.

durangoflyer
26th July 2013, 03:26 PM
Nevermind, I see its on your store page. Anyone have theirs in the air yet?

Carbon
26th July 2013, 03:26 PM
dang, wish I had the cash to set one of these up!

durangoflyer
26th July 2013, 03:34 PM
I know. Thinking about stealing the gear off my mQx and using a small 5v CCD camera and a DThUHF Rx.

FPVdude
26th July 2013, 03:35 PM
this is really cool! mini multis are GREAT. I've got a mini tricopter, 7x4 props on 1080kv motors. 10a ESCs ans a 1300mah 3s.

http://i1150.photobucket.com/albums/o609/Austin-Brown/A10E0C56-8A80-4252-9A4B-6B14A47D73C1-2348-0000087C98517793.jpg

terabyte
26th July 2013, 03:39 PM
Anyone have theirs in the air yet?

That is the first prototype how is anyone else going to have one in the air yet? LOL :P

AJay
27th July 2013, 03:02 AM
I was considering getting the Mini H Quad made bey Blackout on the OP forums but this quad looks much more in my price range. Looks awesome.

SMJ
27th July 2013, 03:23 AM
Can some one check if Chatch and Ajay have the same IP address? :)

Blackout
27th July 2013, 03:27 AM
Can some one check if Chatch and Ajay have the same IP address? :)

blahahaha

wiggysk
27th July 2013, 05:00 AM
ordered :D

AJay
27th July 2013, 08:28 AM
Can some one check if Chatch and Ajay have the same IP address? :)

That was a good joke, i have nothing to do with catch. Check the IP address till your heart's content.

Please take no affiance Blackout, my wallet's not designed for this hobby, hahah.

chatch
27th July 2013, 08:39 AM
ordered :D

hi, were you able to choose the priority shipping option or did it force it to that price? I looked over the shipping calculations and can't figure out why it didn't default to the $22 economy shipping unless you chose to pay the $42.99 for international. let me know what you'd like to do and i'll refund $20 if necessary.

fyi I just shipped a frame to Israel for $22 and it arrived in 10 days. which is sort of disappointing because I've had people pay $60 for "Express" and it arrives in 8-10 days :)

wiggysk
30th July 2013, 03:37 PM
hi, were you able to choose the priority shipping option or did it force it to that price? I looked over the shipping calculations and can't figure out why it didn't default to the $22 economy shipping unless you chose to pay the $42.99 for international. let me know what you'd like to do and i'll refund $20 if necessary.

fyi I just shipped a frame to Israel for $22 and it arrived in 10 days. which is sort of disappointing because I've had people pay $60 for "Express" and it arrives in 8-10 days :)

Hi, it let me choose the quicker option , when can you send one?

chatch
30th July 2013, 03:41 PM
ok great. Just wanted to make sure you weren't forced to pay $43 for shipping. It should be done in about a week. If you guys want them now, "untested" literally just CNCed straight from solidworks, I can do that. But I would prefer to fly, tweak, optimize and then have them cut out.

chatch
30th July 2013, 03:43 PM
it will honestly be 90-95% similar, but i find the little details matter the most

wiggysk
30th July 2013, 03:48 PM
it will honestly be 90-95% similar, but i find the little details matter the most

great cant wait to get my hands on the finished product, unless ive missed it which motors have you tried

afinegan
30th July 2013, 04:32 PM
ok great. Just wanted to make sure you weren't forced to pay $43 for shipping. It should be done in about a week. If you guys want them now, "untested" literally just CNCed straight from solidworks, I can do that. But I would prefer to fly, tweak, optimize and then have them cut out.

You guys will WANT to wait, chatch isn't satisfied until the nano copter is ridiculously overpowered and stable :-) - You will get a nicer product in the end copying his setup after its figured out.

terabyte
30th July 2013, 04:39 PM
Here is what the previous beta program looked like ;)

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8380/8496066891_267f478f8f_b.jpg

Chatch has come a long way in a short amount of time.

swillhide
30th July 2013, 04:45 PM
I agree, Chatch when you get it figured out can you think of selling a kit of all the components in one box unassembled?


Sent from under the goggles.

afinegan
30th July 2013, 04:55 PM
Yea, hes pretty dedicated (even around people trying to molest him while fpv'in)
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/996178_10151769264086522_278704648_n.jpg

airbagit13
30th July 2013, 05:20 PM
LMFAO

chicken sashimi
30th July 2013, 05:28 PM
Subbed.. this little guy looks awesome.

viper522
30th July 2013, 05:34 PM
Yea, hes pretty dedicated (even around people trying to molest him while fpv'in)
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/996178_10151769264086522_278704648_n.jpg

Aural sex, all the cool kids are doin' it.

chatch
30th July 2013, 07:10 PM
I agree, Chatch when you get it figured out can you think of selling a kit of all the components in one box unassembled?


Sent from under the goggles.
sure that's a good plan. If my math is right, the same "overpowerd" setup would be 5x2.81 props @ 2350kv. so 5x3 props @ 2200kv? I am trying 1900kv right now, because the quad is significantly lighter than needed for the thrust:weight ratio produced by 2200kv.

For the 400Q: terabyte, gottahunt, terrier, gundamnitpete were testers. they had great suggestions that resulted in how the frame looks today.

Gottahunt kept snapping off his front plate. It was a 2 minute fix that made all the difference. Now, the problem doesn't exist anymore. I don't think i've sold more than 3 spare clean plates.
Terabyte kept breaking arms at the base. I changed the slot and thickened the landing gear to prevent this. it still happens in extreme circumstances but 99% of the time it doesn't.

Testing is needed for sure. I'm sure something will come up during this build.

swillhide
30th July 2013, 08:12 PM
Maybe even different levels of pilot experience. Moderate, advance then "in the clouds" aka insane.

I know it's aimed toward a 3s but can we please get some wiggle room for a small 4s!

Blackout
30th July 2013, 08:26 PM
sure that's a good plan. If my math is right, the same "overpowerd" setup would be 5x2.81 props @ 2350kv. so 5x3 props @ 2200kv? I am trying 1900kv right now, because the quad is significantly lighter than needed for the thrust:weight ratio produced by 2200kv.

For the 400Q: terabyte, gottahunt, terrier, gundamnitpete were testers. they had great suggestions that resulted in how the frame looks today.

Gottahunt kept snapping off his front plate. It was a 2 minute fix that made all the difference. Now, the problem doesn't exist anymore. I don't think i've sold more than 3 spare clean plates.
Terabyte kept breaking arms at the base. I changed the slot and thickened the landing gear to prevent this. it still happens in extreme circumstances but 99% of the time it doesn't.

Testing is needed for sure. I'm sure something will come up during this build.

2200kv, 5x3, 3S would be nice !

What motors have you got in mind? I haven't been able to find any I like in the ~2200kv range :(

carsonco
30th July 2013, 08:40 PM
Blackout I have been unable to find any either maybe chatch is working with tiger or someone else to get what he wants?

This is outside my realm of knowledge but what about custom winding something from gobrushless.com? Those are supposed to be quality are they not?

carsonco
30th July 2013, 08:44 PM
Then again id assume that will not happen until the frame is finalized...

felixrising
30th July 2013, 08:49 PM
@swillhide, 4S on a tiny thing like that! You crazy boi!

@blackout, @carsonco. The Suppo/Mystery A1510 2200KV is a very nice motor (with normal four hole mounting pattern) on gemfan 5x3x2 props with 3S... it's something of a love/hate relationship (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=23438045&postcount=1777) apparently, but I haven't had any issue with the 14 I have in use so far (touch wood).

I've ordered some ZMR 1804 (2400KV) motors to try out.. I'll report in when they arrive.

felixrising
30th July 2013, 08:55 PM
Moderation fail - already edited into above post due to looong wait.

chatch
30th July 2013, 09:39 PM
2200kv, 5x3, 3S would be nice !

What motors have you got in mind? I haven't been able to find any I like in the ~2200kv range :(

yeah, it was the same for QAV400 release too. they had Juz using pretty shitty motors to begin with. No idea who decided on 2212 980kv. Now that 2216 1100kv are pretty much standard... looks like I'll need to continue in the same way with a smaller motor for this quad.

As mentioned before, I'll probably end up including motors with the frame. Maybe unmarked? :)

terabyte
30th July 2013, 09:46 PM
as long as they are black and sound smooth :)

Blackout
30th July 2013, 09:48 PM
I'm not a fan of Suppos.... strange 3 hole mounting system too

Where can i find the ZMR 1804 motors ?

The Sunnysky 2450kv II look really interesting !

felixrising
30th July 2013, 09:53 PM
3 hole? The A1510 2200kv are a standard four hole (http://www.goodluckbuy.com/images/detailed_images/sku_78597_2.jpg) mount ..

stgdz
30th July 2013, 11:35 PM
some options
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__18113__Turnigy_Aerodrive_SK3_2122_2100kv_Brushle ss_Outrunner_Motor.html
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__5379__C1826_Micro_brushless_Outrunner_2400kv_18g _.html
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__11882__ADH300S_Brushless_Outrunner_2400kv.html

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__40679__Turnigy_2211_Brushless_Indoor_Motor_2300k v_USA_warehouse_.html <-collet mount


You really are kinda limited, either go with a rubber o-ring style prop setup and get possibly a slight better motor(sk3) or go with a three hole chassis mount.

Blackout
30th July 2013, 11:37 PM
some options
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__18113__Turnigy_Aerodrive_SK3_2122_2100kv_Brushle ss_Outrunner_Motor.html
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__5379__C1826_Micro_brushless_Outrunner_2400kv_18g _.html
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__11882__ADH300S_Brushless_Outrunner_2400kv.html

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__40679__Turnigy_2211_Brushless_Indoor_Motor_2300k v_USA_warehouse_.html <-collet mount


You really are kinda limited, either go with a rubber o-ring style prop setup and get possibly a slight better motor(sk3) or go with a three hole chassis mount.

SK3's maybe.I havent heard good things about them though.

p25o1
31st July 2013, 10:32 AM
just placed an order for the 400q :-)
i'll wait for this little quad tests and order it later, since i didn't want the 400q order to wait.

chatch
31st July 2013, 10:38 AM
it will be shipping today :D

p25o1
31st July 2013, 10:54 AM
thx man, also ordered some battery packs for the same setup :-)

one more thing, sent you a pm on your radio frequency test setup , can you share the hardware that you are using plz.
and
if your are intrested ,,this project is up on KS
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mossmann/hackrf-an-open-source-sdr-platform
thought it might intrest you.

fmkit
31st July 2013, 04:07 PM
...........................................
if your are intrested ,,this project is up on KS
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mossmann/hackrf-an-open-source-sdr-platform
thought it might intrest you.

this project is perfect example of what kickstarter has beecome, even if you get something in the end it might be as described functional but totally unusable. I've read bunch of SDR datasheets and understand some things about RF
+ paid $$ for german made portable Aaronia HF4040 spectrum analyzer to realize SDR was and will be just toy, it can't see true noise floor (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25566993&postcount=863)

Tomcor
1st August 2013, 07:28 AM
this is really cool! mini multis are GREAT. I've got a mini tricopter, 7x4 props on 1080kv motors. 10a ESCs ans a 1300mah 3s.

http://i1150.photobucket.com/albums/o609/Austin-Brown/A10E0C56-8A80-4252-9A4B-6B14A47D73C1-2348-0000087C98517793.jpg

What motors are you using? T copter dimensions?

chatch
1st August 2013, 12:38 PM
they look like turnigy aerodrive motors. maybe 8 stator?

stgdz
1st August 2013, 02:58 PM
Hey almost look like park 250's

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=11887

If you can use the rubber o-ring setup that really opens up a lot. You can heavier o-rings from McMaster fairly easy.

smoothvirus
1st August 2013, 03:45 PM
as long as they are black and sound smooth :)

http://www.alleewillis.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/billy-dee-wiliams-colt-45-sign.jpg

I couldn't resist...

chatch
1st August 2013, 04:10 PM
lol i will have to move these spacers about 3mm for production. this is the back, so no big deal.

http://i.imgur.com/S5bHHYu.jpg

chatch
1st August 2013, 09:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QkseMWoY2w

terabyte
1st August 2013, 09:27 PM
sweet!!!!

swillhide
1st August 2013, 09:31 PM
That thing is on crack all twitchy! Oh wait Chris were you flying it....

PDXDave
1st August 2013, 09:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QkseMWoY2w

What? No flips??? ;)

Derrick
1st August 2013, 09:39 PM
Looks good... looking forward to the full up FPV ready Video.

Howemd
1st August 2013, 09:46 PM
Wouldn't having that battery mounted up top significantly raise the cg up and cause it to be tipsy/twitchy?

chatch
1st August 2013, 10:21 PM
that's just a test to make sure it's working. don't want to put fpv stuff on it and have to take it all apart again. I did end up having to take the sense caps off my ESC. motors would sieze on sharp throttle pumping. it fell about 20 feet out of the air onto the street. Busted a motor, but I ordered 5 so it was fine. the frame obviously was fine, just swapped the motor out and removed teh caps.

now it flies pretty great. the battery is on top because normally it would be in the back with fpv equipment up front. might want to watch this

http://vimeo.com/42238681

afinegan
1st August 2013, 11:56 PM
UNLEASH THE TROLL...copter

https://vimeo.com/71553032

the flight at the end was the inspiration for spanky lol

fmkit
2nd August 2013, 12:02 AM
don''t be shy using the LEDs and larger props ;) 220g w/o batt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mPUsqBd5hU

afinegan
2nd August 2013, 12:20 AM
Im not shy around leds lol

https://vimeo.com/66132157

chatch
2nd August 2013, 04:31 AM
that's crazy. i have about 8 of the 3 watt LEDs but they only run on 3-3.5v. not sure how to power them.

chatch
2nd August 2013, 04:35 AM
the PID settings i used is the same as the 400Q frame except i multiplied everything by (250/400) and rounded down(floor). flies great for testing, i'm not sure that i'll bother with it after putting fpv stuff on.

ssassen
2nd August 2013, 07:12 AM
Im not shy around leds lol

https://vimeo.com/66132157

EPIC! Fly that around at night and listen to the police scanner for UFO reports :D

FPVdude
2nd August 2013, 11:30 AM
What motors are you using? T copter dimensions?

these park300 motors, with the shaft reveresed:
http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__19033__Turnigy_Park300_Brushless_Outrunner_1080k v.html

10.25" from center to motor axle. Because its 7x4 props on 3s, the thing HAULS. its super agile too. I have no doubt that this mini quad will be the same way.

fmkit
2nd August 2013, 09:50 PM
that's crazy. i have about 8 of the 3 watt LEDs but they only run on 3-3.5v. not sure how to power them.

use any cellphone car charger, I bought many off ebay for $0.5/ea, 99% based on MC34063 step-down that also limits current and short-circuit protected, these charger can drive 3w LED without any mods.

Naze32 CPU has many unused pins that I connected to FETs and radio-modem, this way changing LED modes remotely and most important blinking special patterns to warn about low battery and other alarms.

chatch
2nd August 2013, 11:34 PM
great idea. Can the pins PWM the LED to change brightness?

afinegan
2nd August 2013, 11:44 PM
I have been looking into these led strips that you can control each led individually through an ardunio(or get the FC to address them), can prob put on quite a light show, they seem to be really bright

http://www.adafruit.com/products/1138
https://vimeo.com/55839965#t=985

chatch
2nd August 2013, 11:47 PM
obligatory "atmel = aids" post

afinegan
2nd August 2013, 11:53 PM
Wheres atmel lol

chatch
2nd August 2013, 11:55 PM
ardunio

usually uses atmel

chatch
2nd August 2013, 11:56 PM
http://i.imgur.com/aDE9fyG.jpg

afinegan
3rd August 2013, 12:03 AM
usually uses atmel

Ohh, I was focusing on the leds, gotcha

Nice looking batterys!

chatch
3rd August 2013, 12:07 AM
yeah the pwm chip is nice. 1300mah = 6.5 minute hover.

chatch
5th August 2013, 02:57 AM
my sc2000 camera came with the right polarity plug. Pleasant surprise.

http://i.imgur.com/DhCsMmq.jpg

Carbon
5th August 2013, 03:05 AM
being a quad guy Chatch, I heard that three bladed props were bad for multirotors. Did you go with them because they can be shorter and provide the same thrust as a 2 bladed one?

chatch
5th August 2013, 04:38 AM
these 1900kv motors are a bit weak, so 3 blade is needed. i have some more powerful motors in the mail.

wiggysk
5th August 2013, 04:54 AM
these 1900kv motors are a bit weak, so 3 blade is needed. i have some more powerful motors in the mail.

what motors have you got coming, ive just orderd some tiger 1310 3100 for this

afinegan
5th August 2013, 09:36 AM
3 blades create more thrust but are less efficient than 2 blades due to how the blades disrupt the air.

I learned this from the old LOS days

fmkit
5th August 2013, 01:52 PM
my small quads can fly with large overlapping props ;)
http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/1/6/8/3/3/7/a5980282-239-21cm_quad.jpg
http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/1/6/8/3/3/7/a5980284-244-21cm_quad_.jpg

airbagit13
7th August 2013, 01:32 PM
That is certainly interesting but wouldn't it be better to just get higher KV and smaller props. This way you get rid of unneeded prop wash.

chatch
7th August 2013, 11:07 PM
no the benefit of larger props highly outweighs the prop wash. I bet fpmkits quad flies 12 minutes

Flying Monkey
7th August 2013, 11:14 PM
no the benefit of larger props highly outweighs the prop wash. I bet fpmkits quad flies 12 minutes

...but its not as cute.

airbagit13
7th August 2013, 11:18 PM
Interesting. If I ever get a minute after I build your mini maybe i will get some lower KV motors and space up two motors and give it a try. Doubt it though, lazy.

fmkit
7th August 2013, 11:24 PM
W/ 8043 props 15minutes == 2.3AH LiFePo4 , 9minutes w/1100mah LiPoFe ;)
1045 props (as pictured above) I had to rewire ESC to run off 1S, it flew with LiPo but I didn't notice longer flight times or noise reduction, will continue using 2s LiFePo4 + 8" props

chatch
8th August 2013, 12:17 AM
really nice results :D

carsonco
9th August 2013, 08:16 AM
ok I know you have had the prototype built for about a week now got any video to show off Chatch? how about motors, what have you tested?

ReadError
9th August 2013, 03:44 PM
I think hes on vacation should be back this weekend WITH VIDEO, or I hope ;)

satttheman
13th August 2013, 06:14 PM
Any pics of the frame?

chatch
14th August 2013, 10:32 AM
just got new motors. at this time i am shipping out 400Q orders that built up while i was away. once that is complete i will put the new motors on "spanky", fly, post a video and have a few cut out. i'm trying to push the cost down from $89 to more like $69-$74. making the plate with arms into two pieces could allow this to happen(instead of it being a single piece).

satttheman
14th August 2013, 10:35 AM
Cool! Well I subscribed. I'll probably add one to the collection.

swillhide
14th August 2013, 02:02 PM
Yea this thread is getting outta hand. Got a timeframe Chris?

chatch
14th August 2013, 10:13 PM
out of hand? If you have a preorder you can always get a refund instantly(as soon as I receive the email). I'm trying to perfect the frame as much as possible before sending out finished products. Anyone can throw together a mini frame haphazardly, it's not hard. I try to think of everything possible based on experience with other frames and input from other people.

I can have the frames cut as-is as early as 8am tomorrow morning. If you'd like it now, send an email or pm to me, include your name in the pm.

swillhide
14th August 2013, 10:17 PM
Sorry if the humor didnt come through. "Out of hand" was 100% tongue in cheek. No ill meaning.


Cool, I will send you an email to see if I can get this bad boy flyin. Thanks Chris

FPVdude
15th August 2013, 11:47 AM
Actually it's probably a good idea to send out a few and get feedback based on the problems people notice.

chatch
15th August 2013, 12:30 PM
definitely. i had terabyte and airbagit on that list. if you want it now, feel free to email or pm me.

terabyte
15th August 2013, 12:56 PM
afinegan is waiting like a little girl too

afinegan
15th August 2013, 04:26 PM
just missing esc's and motors for it :-D (everything else bought and purchased)

ssassen
15th August 2013, 04:28 PM
I think hes on vacation should be back this weekend WITH VIDEO, or I hope ;)

What a slacker, he was late sending my bobbins too, talk about priorities, geezzz ... :D

radicalron
22nd August 2013, 10:34 PM
Hey Chatch, whats the latest info on the spanky? Do you have some tiger motors and some simon flashed 10 amp esc for sale?

chatch
23rd August 2013, 12:23 AM
trying to get it done today. will be cutting this weekend.

I'm only using t-motor for 400Q because it provides smooth video. i'm looking at a different manufacturer for these motors. it will keep the price realistic($15/motor) so you don't have to shell out $400 for a mini quad.

Carbon
23rd August 2013, 12:24 AM
Reasonable price?? But Blackout said..

chatch
23rd August 2013, 12:52 AM
What a slacker, he was late sending my bobbins too, talk about priorities, geezzz ... :D

i see you got your bobbins :)

swillhide
23rd August 2013, 12:56 AM
Chatch have you cleaned out your Inbox yet, tried to send you a PM but nooo, full.

chatch
23rd August 2013, 01:08 AM
email is better, pm is on the bottom of my priority list. it fills up in hours

Sinewavz
23rd August 2013, 03:27 PM
Awesome frame Chatch :) I really love my 400Q as it is the quad I fly almost everyday with 0 issues. NOW this!! I just sent you an email...

- Frank

wiggysk
24th August 2013, 06:12 AM
hows the frame coming along chatch, cant wait to get mine

AJay
25th August 2013, 09:08 AM
I'd love to se a video of Catch flying using this frame, is there one?

chatch
25th August 2013, 01:00 PM
not yet :( rainy weekend. i'm trying to have frames cut this weekend

swillhide
28th August 2013, 12:38 PM
What? Your in sunny Florida you people dont know rain. Well maybe the random hurricane but that doesnt count.

wiggysk
7th September 2013, 05:55 AM
Any update Chatch?

chatch
7th September 2013, 09:56 PM
finishing tonight! I will do a flight tomorrow morning before it gets 100 degrees outside. I think I will fly it around UCF campus. off of a parking garage :)

durangoflyer
7th September 2013, 10:46 PM
finishing tonight! I will do a flight tomorrow morning before it gets 100 degrees outside. I think I will fly it around UCF campus. off of a parking garage :)

My Alma Mater....

AJay
8th September 2013, 12:31 AM
Ohhwww, i can't wait for the video!!!

chatch
8th September 2013, 10:54 AM
ok i flew it LOS at first and messed up(tried to invert the motor direction). hit the sidewalk and busted 2 motors. i have 5 replacements but itll take some time to put them on.

PLENTY of power, really happy so far.

viper522
9th September 2013, 08:35 AM
crash video = even better

chatch
9th September 2013, 11:43 AM
i didnt even hit record! it was just a quick "ok everything works before i put the goggles on" test

radicalron
10th September 2013, 03:12 AM
Hey Chatch, I know your busy with school, but how soon until the little micro quads are ready 2 sell. Thanks Ron

Sinewavz
10th September 2013, 12:40 PM
Hope you have a better flight next time buddy! Eager to see the results.

wiggysk
11th September 2013, 02:18 AM
Chatch can you give us an idea when please as I paid weeks ago, thanks

chatch
11th September 2013, 09:16 AM
i will have them cut in 1-2 days. if they aren't cut by the weekend i'll refund preorders

chatch
11th September 2013, 07:03 PM
i got the dirty plate done. i have been working on the 2nd dirty plate but after a LOT of testing i don't see any benefit other than adding weight. a single plate for motors+esc+distro, then a normal clean section will work great. This is for 0.125" thick G10

I have 0.094" G10 coming that will work better with the secondary dirty plate. We can try both ways, if a 2nd plate just makes it harder to assemble then I'll go back to 0.125" thick. The preorders will ship as 265mm instead of 250mm. this gives a bit more prop clearance and will fly a little better than before. I really crammed the motors in there for my prototype.

chatch
11th September 2013, 07:03 PM
i got the dirty plate done. i have been working on the 2nd dirty plate but after a LOT of testing i don't see any benefit other than adding weight. a single plate for motors+esc+distro, then a normal clean section will work great. This is for 0.125" thick G10

I have 0.094" G10 coming that will work better with the secondary dirty plate. We can try both ways, if a 2nd plate just makes it harder to assemble then I'll go back to 0.125" thick. The preorders will ship as 265mm instead of 250mm. this gives a bit more prop clearance and will fly a little better than before. I really crammed the motors in there for my prototype.

it takes so long because i don't just use rectangles or simple designs. i try to craft the drawing so it's both aesthetically pleasing, and maximizes strength. curves are stronger than sharp edges.

http://i.imgur.com/2vgrU3I.png

chatch
11th September 2013, 08:33 PM
ok I sent the drawing to be cut.

anodyne
11th September 2013, 10:15 PM
ok I sent the drawing to be cut.

Very nice. I might have missed it, but will you have motors (and perhaps props) to sell? If so, could they be added to existing preorders? Thanks.

chatch
11th September 2013, 11:13 PM
yes i'm working on motors at the moment. I've tried many different types and unfortunately, all of them need to be replaced when they impact concrete(buildings or sidewalks/roads). Even the Tiger MT1306. if you land in the grass they're OK 90% of the time. I'm not used to motors breaking after only a few crashes so i was very hesitant of buying them in quantity at first. now all I can do is try to make the motors as cheap as possible so it doesn't hurt to replace a few and have some extras on hand.

satttheman
12th September 2013, 11:40 AM
When will it be available for pre order?

viper522
12th September 2013, 11:47 AM
Last week

chatch
13th September 2013, 09:09 PM
When will it be available for pre order?
preorder has been live on my site for a while, frames start shipping on Tuesday when I receive them.

airbagit13
13th September 2013, 09:20 PM
I WANT MY FRAME NOW MOFO! RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE! lol

chatch
13th September 2013, 09:23 PM
I got you ESCs, you want motors too? It depends if you're using 3S or 2S.

airbagit13
13th September 2013, 09:40 PM
Texting you.

wiggysk
14th September 2013, 07:26 AM
I got you ESCs, you want motors too? It depends if you're using 3S or 2S.

what do you think is better 3s or 2s higher kv like the mt motors

chatch
14th September 2013, 01:00 PM
http://i.imgur.com/x4gKXjKh.jpg

chatch
14th September 2013, 01:01 PM
http://i.imgur.com/YMuAP8eh.jpg

FPVdude
14th September 2013, 01:04 PM
WHOOAAAA COOL!

chatch
14th September 2013, 01:22 PM
these first frames will be strong as hell. the G10 is over tolerance. it is supposed to be 3.175mm and it is actually 3.43mm thick. that's 8% thicker.

that other piece is for another project. Motor mount for IBCrazy's Chimera plane. I received a prototype in exchange for drawing the motor mount :D. The normal mounts will be made of ABS plastic, but since I was cutting spankys out and it's the right thickness, i threw the drawings in there to be cut in the blank spaces.

radicalron
14th September 2013, 04:56 PM
Did you fix the one you crashed? Sure would like to see some cool videos

Sinewavz
15th September 2013, 01:13 PM
Any plans for landing gear? The motors shafts may need protection since they protrude out the bottom.

chatch
15th September 2013, 01:45 PM
my motor shafts don't stick out. But, landing gear is definitely a good idea.

swillhide
15th September 2013, 01:49 PM
Ear plugs + dab of hot glue! Perfect.

satttheman
15th September 2013, 01:57 PM
Just sent payment for one. What motors will you be carrying for them? I was just going to order suppo 1510s.

chatch
15th September 2013, 02:16 PM
those suppos will work but order 8 because some are DOA.

satttheman
15th September 2013, 02:34 PM
Cool thx! Will these be too big?http://witespyquad.gostorego.com/speed-controllers/ready-to-fly-simonk-house-esc-16-amp.html

chatch
15th September 2013, 03:23 PM
I would use Blueseries from hobbyking instead. They're all N-FET

radicalron
15th September 2013, 07:43 PM
Chatch have you tried the tiger motors on 3s?? (the little 3100 kv motors for the miniquad)

MrFollies
16th September 2013, 12:12 AM
Hey chatch. Clear out your message box. Trying to PM you re: my order.

swillhide
16th September 2013, 12:15 AM
You can order from the
http://realfpv.com/buy.html

At the bottom.

chatch
16th September 2013, 12:22 AM
k i cleared a few messages

chatch
16th September 2013, 12:43 AM
Cool thx! Will these be too big?http://witespyquad.gostorego.com/speed-controllers/ready-to-fly-simonk-house-esc-16-amp.html

i just checked my fpvlab folder and saw you emailed a bunch of times. Sorry I don't check that folder often. 3,127 unread items in there. i sent a reply so you can send an e-mail to my "real" email, or there is space in my PM box if you want to PM.

4bladeflyingfish
18th September 2013, 01:34 PM
Awesome Quad, placed a preorder and was wondering how the shipping was going?
Thanks I look forward to the build!

chatch
18th September 2013, 08:11 PM
i just received the first batch of frames today!!! I am currently processing a RMRC order for a bunch of 400Qs. Next on the list are parts/bobbins/motors orders from the past few days. Then I'll be able to ship out the Spanky frames.

See this post for details. http://fpvlab.com/forums/showthread.php?18716-REALfpv-Silicone-RC-Bobbin-Vibration-Isolation-Dampeners&p=338210&viewfull=1#post338210

MrFollies
18th September 2013, 08:53 PM
Hey Chatch,... Just wondering if it's possible to extend my order to include motors for the mini? Or have you you not settled on any yet?

chatch
18th September 2013, 09:28 PM
my next task is placing an order for motors. you can e-mail me at the paypal email address and i will flag your order for delay for motors.

Here's a handful of dirty plates. picture is a bit out of focus. the arms are incredibly strong. i was able to reduce the frame weight by about 35g since the prototype.
http://i.imgur.com/G6Y8TZv.jpg

satttheman
19th September 2013, 10:24 PM
Whats the price on the motors? I just got my Suppo 1510 today.

Byro
20th September 2013, 12:13 AM
What is the queue like Chatch? I want a quad I can store at work and this frame looks ideal.

wiggysk
22nd September 2013, 04:04 PM
chatch any more news i thought you were sending some last week

Byro
22nd September 2013, 08:21 PM
He may have another exam :)

wiggysk
23rd September 2013, 01:27 PM
chatch can you give me an idea when as i paid on 27th july

satttheman
23rd September 2013, 01:29 PM
I think he's shipping some today.

wiggysk
23rd September 2013, 01:29 PM
thanks

chatch
23rd September 2013, 02:42 PM
yeah everything is going out today.

viper522
23rd September 2013, 02:52 PM
yeah everything is going out today.

evan bobbuns?

satttheman
23rd September 2013, 10:48 PM
What are some of the setups guys plan on using?

felixrising
23rd September 2013, 11:53 PM
I've got some Suppo/Mystery A1510 2200kv motors and some of those ZMR 1804 2400kv motors to try out, which I'll combine with Gemfan 5x3x2 props and Blue Series 12A ESCs running SimonK powered by Zippy Compact 1000 or 1300mAh 3S batteries. FC will be Naze32 running latest Baseflight which has been seeing some code polishing lately thanks to the lads in #multiwii. Control will be FrSky 2.4ghz and FPV transmission via ImmersionRC 5.8GHz

satttheman
24th September 2013, 01:52 AM
I've got some Suppo/Mystery A1510 2200kv motors and some of those ZMR 1804 2400kv motors to try out, which I'll combine with Gemfan 5x3x2 props and Blue Series 12A ESCs running SimonK powered by Zippy Compact 1000 or 1300mAh 3S batteries. FC will be Naze32 running latest Baseflight which has been seeing some code polishing lately thanks to the lads in #multiwii. Control will be FrSky 2.4ghz and FPV transmission via ImmersionRC 5.8GHz

Wow! You have it all mapped out. I'm not sure what FC I want to run. I have Suppo 1510 2200kv as well and SimonK escs. I was going to run 3s 900mah packs. Frsky or DL and 1.3GHz.

felixrising
24th September 2013, 01:59 AM
yah.. well, talk is cheap :) When it arrives we'll see how much of that plan I stick to.. its also pretty much what I have on hand for that sized quad. I haven't gone down the UHF control path yet.. though do have a OpenLRS set up which I'll try out if the Taranis ever ships.. (do you hear me HobbyKing?!?!).

satttheman
24th September 2013, 11:04 AM
I'm not really set on what I want to use either. Once I get it in my hand I'll have a better idea. I'm going to look into those zmr motors that you spoke about.

satttheman
24th September 2013, 12:43 PM
I'm blaming you felixrising. Lol! I just ordered a five of the zmr and there 12amp escs. I hope 5 was enough! Now I'm going to have two setups. Idk??? I guess I'll have to order another spanky?!? :-)

chatch
24th September 2013, 06:44 PM
half the pre-orders are shipped.

satttheman
24th September 2013, 07:09 PM
If you didn't receive a tracking number does that mean your order didn't ship? If so when will the rest go out?

chatch
24th September 2013, 07:38 PM
tonight most likely. i'll have all the orders packed and labeled.

chatch
25th September 2013, 07:12 PM
here's what it looks like. all preorders shipped so far. now i can focus on spare parts + motor orders. 400Q frames were delivered to RMRC last week.
http://i.imgur.com/xXm70eo.jpg

Byro
25th September 2013, 07:20 PM
Looks Good chatch, I might order one soon!

airbagit13
26th September 2013, 01:31 AM
Can't find the post, guess it was deleted.

Blackout:

" Sadly the moderators at FPVLab are running very adhoc. Sentry has been AWOL for a long time and there is no leadership."

Dude what the **** are you babbling about? Enjoy RCG.

chatch
26th September 2013, 01:38 AM
lol, agreed


Looks Good chatch, I might order one soon!

thanks, I'll try to move my electronics over to the new frame this weekend and fly around campus.

satttheman
28th September 2013, 11:23 PM
Got my spanky today! Super excited! Definitely ordering another one! Thx Chatch!

airbagit13
29th September 2013, 12:28 AM
Got mine as well. Super sexy. I was building an Ecks quad for my smaller agile quad before I got this one. ecks quad will be for sale tomorrow.

rank
29th September 2013, 01:02 AM
Looks interesting! Wonder if you there will be a CF version of it?!

Derrick
29th September 2013, 01:05 AM
Looks interesting! Wonder if you there will be a CF version of it?!

Why? Carbon has its place in the composites world, it is however often to heavy for most RC related applications. Not to mention that it "can" wreak havoc on RF transmission/reception.

rank
29th September 2013, 01:13 AM
TBH, I'm not familiar with G10 stuff. But thanks, I will look into it closely.

chatch
29th September 2013, 01:21 AM
at this scale there isn't really a point for CF. It would shave a few grams off the total weight, but more than double the cost and as derrick said, this is a FPV frame and it should be as RF transparent as possible. I will use aluminum, CF etc. as sparingly as possible.

for a 100-125mm frame where you are using a pico cam, 5g RX and 1S battery, it is worth it to switch to CF.

This frame is designed to carry all your normal FPV equipment.... "real" FPV equipment :). I fly mine with UHF, 2.4GHz video, full size 600TVL Sony CCD and a Mobius HD camera.


Why? Carbon has its place in the composites world, it is however often to heavy for most RC related applications. Not to mention that it "can" wreak havoc on RF transmission/reception.

carbon fiber is lighter while being just as strong or stronger. it is a bit more brittle.

chatch
29th September 2013, 01:31 AM
TBH, I'm not familiar with G10 stuff. But thanks, I will look into it closely.

well then, i would like to introduce you to G10. it is composed of very fine glass fibers held together with an epoxy resin. It is very difficult to machine properly because it is basically the ideal material you would design TO wear down a drill bit/endmiill :).

take a look at G10/FR4 strength numbers here

http://i.imgur.com/Ri7Zc.jpg

rank
29th September 2013, 01:36 AM
wow, thanks again, will keep my eye on the thread!

chatch
29th September 2013, 02:32 AM
Shipping is back on schedule. It's back to 24hr shipping or less.

AJay
29th September 2013, 02:48 AM
Have you come to a conclusion on what motors to use Catch?

AJay
29th September 2013, 04:44 AM
Sorry for the double post but.....

Will RMRC be stocking the spanky quad too?

felixrising
29th September 2013, 04:51 AM
If you're talking 3s - and you should be: the ZMR 2400kv are the current motors of choice, A1510 2200kv are solid choice too. 2s battery you probably want the Tiger Motor MT1306 3100kv

AJay
29th September 2013, 04:53 AM
Thanks.

Yuk 2s. Higher the voltage the better.

Those mr motors look nice. The price looks even better though. Especially when coating them t the T's.

satttheman
29th September 2013, 08:29 AM
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l229/paintballrdaking/CameraZOOM-20130929032203278_zps6f96bf0a.jpghttp://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l229/paintballrdaking/CameraZOOM-20130929032230597_zps524bc8ef.jpg

Distro board thickness compared to dirty platehttp://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l229/paintballrdaking/2013-09-29_03-24-47_zpsf6c3b579.jpg

Top plate and dirty platehttp://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l229/paintballrdaking/CameraZOOM-20130929032320845_zps6eb647e4.jpg

Sorry for the sucky pics I just wanted to get some up for the guys who may be waiting for pics before pulling the trigger.

chatch
29th September 2013, 09:24 AM
Sorry for the double post but.....

Will RMRC be stocking the spanky quad too?

yes :)

anodyne
29th September 2013, 06:16 PM
Spanky received yesterday, thanks! What's the word on motors and if/when they might be in the store (which)? Much appreciated.

chatch
29th September 2013, 11:47 PM
I'm waiting on an invoice but in the meantime try the ZMR motors from myrcmart.com

I'm having them customize those motors and hopefully I'll be able to sell them for $12.50 each. They are $8.99 on rcmart but after shipping it works out to about $14 per motor if you want them quickly.