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Piccoloflyer
26th April 2013, 11:26 PM
I want one for my Disco, I dont want to buy another quad ? Any suggestion?

kclements
27th April 2013, 12:59 AM
Here is a link to the video my brother made of him flying my DISCO with my new brushless gimbal. The gimbal is setup with the stock PID's which is not right. I am in the process of "tweeking" the gimbal control software now.

you can see at the end of the video, the gimbal freaks out.

I had to make custom landing gear for it to get enough clearance for the gimbal and then I had to make a plate for the gimbal to attach to.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LABVgBPuIMI

kclements
27th April 2013, 01:05 AM
And here is the newest one that was taken with the brushless gimbal on the Disco


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdSMlvRIEE

AustinFPV
27th April 2013, 05:18 PM
I think flying front-mount instead of underslung is a huge benefit of a Spider quad. Less side area exposed to wind and the quad and cam share the same roll axis. This one (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1864420) adapted for front mount, or design your own front mount for it, or wait for Ed to finish the Disco mount (post 32).

whiplashWho
28th April 2013, 08:53 PM
And here is the newest one that was taken with the brushless gimbal on the Disco



Why did that need dubstep? Everything gets dubstep. Dafuqs.

bighead93
28th April 2013, 11:22 PM
I would love a front mounted gimbal! All my Disco is missing!!

Piccoloflyer
29th April 2013, 12:36 AM
here is front mount gimbal for TBS, still in design stage,

http://www.multirotorforums.com/showthread.php?10300-Brushless-Gimbal-Complete-Vendor-Links&p=101190&viewfull=1#post101190

video on vimeo


http://vimeo.com/63039089

Piccoloflyer
29th April 2013, 12:47 AM
just found this ,
http://vimeo.com/63030851 front mount brushless gimbal, need to see more video footage as how they deal with vibration

stubbed
29th April 2013, 03:36 AM
Where's the FPV camera going to go on a rig like that...

punchy
29th April 2013, 03:49 AM
I think flying front-mount ...is a huge benefit...

are there any 2 axis FRONT mount brushless gimbals for PLANES? would love to have something to eliminate the nervous side-to-side jitter of a wing...

Skymotion
29th April 2013, 08:08 AM
you meant something like that: http://imageshack.us/a/img545/8697/img2379y.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/545/img2379y.jpg/) and that? http://imageshack.us/a/img594/5145/img2378x.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/594/img2378x.jpg/)
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/4291/img2375qh.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/img2375qh.jpg/)

this is only a prototype. The final version will be better quality, and GF replaced by niced CF :-P

AustinFPV
29th April 2013, 09:15 AM
are there any 2 axis FRONT mount brushless gimbals for PLANES? would love to have something to eliminate the nervous side-to-side jitter of a wing...Any should be able to be adapted by adding a custom roll motor mount, but the lighter and more compact the better. I don't think they get much lighter or more compact than Ed's open-source zero markup Skylight on Shapeways for $60. It is H2 only right now though.

I couldn't even watch the wing videos without feeling ill. Now I'm itching to get one of these on a wing and can't wait to see the videos.

Piccoloflyer
29th April 2013, 07:35 PM
you meant something like that: http://imageshack.us/a/img545/8697/img2379y.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/545/img2379y.jpg/) and that? http://imageshack.us/a/img594/5145/img2378x.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/594/img2378x.jpg/)
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/4291/img2375qh.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/img2375qh.jpg/)

this is only a prototype. The final version will be better quality, and GF replaced by niced CF :-P

I like this design, it's 3D printed, any test video, how do you deal with vibration(hi frequency)?

Skymotion
30th April 2013, 01:37 AM
I like this design, it's 3D printed, any test video, how do you deal with vibration(hi frequency)?

No it's not 3D printed of course!!!!
It's fiber glass cut with CNC. Next models in carbon.
some video where made without any vibration at all...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7bvzQAdh6I

kclements
30th April 2013, 02:00 AM
Looking good!

Skymotion
30th April 2013, 03:30 AM
I'll have one or 2 complete gimbal to sell soon. I'll let you know

JM

Piccoloflyer
1st May 2013, 03:59 AM
I'll have one or 2 complete gimbal to sell soon. I'll let you know

JM

very smooth footage, which controller broad you are using? Let me know when it's on the market

Skymotion
1st May 2013, 09:41 AM
very smooth footage, which controller broad you are using? Let me know when it's on the market
Thks!
alexmos card from flyduino. A batch of 40pieces is ongoing, not sure there is even 1 left as it was design over a french forum BUT, If everything is going fine, we may ask for a second batch of 20pieces.
I'll let you know asap

Cheers
JM

rwijnhov
1st May 2013, 09:41 AM
pls pm me the price for one gimbal.

soto48
1st May 2013, 03:17 PM
Please PM me as well for the pricing , Thank you

Boltzman
1st May 2013, 06:01 PM
Hi!

I installed this gimbal on my TBS Discovery 2 months ago.
It fits a NEX-5N/R and works amazingly good. Supersmooth video.
Front mount is a killer, you can actually travel with this setup in a backpack.

P.S. I use 2820 860kv and 2814 1000kv motors on these setups.

gondoflier
1st May 2013, 07:38 PM
Boltzman..do you have any sample video's? ..did you make the gimbal yourself ?

stubbed
1st May 2013, 07:55 PM
Boltzman - That looks really impressive. Good job. Is it a kit or a home build?

malee
2nd May 2013, 01:17 AM
Hi!

I installed this gimbal on my TBS Discovery 2 months ago.
It fits a NEX-5N/R and works amazingly good. Supersmooth video.
Front mount is a killer, you can actually travel with this setup in a backpack.

P.S. I use 2820 860kv and 2814 1000kv motors on these setups.


cool! imho, the gimbal looks better front mounted on a TBS Disco airframe like this as to maintain its low profile look than to mount it under its belly.
with that weight, what flight time do you get and is there any video?

Ninjatriks
2nd May 2013, 10:10 AM
Someone could make a lot of money making a "cheap" 2 axis gimbal for the Disco........
Been looking for a AlexMos package, plug and play, for some time now.....

Boltzman
6th May 2013, 08:25 PM
Sorry for late reply, here comes some test shots with the GotheliRC gimbal on my TBS Discovery. It's a super compact design that I can fit into a backpack.
Shots starting from 00:34. Sorry for the lens scratch on some shots, had crash..
Som yaw stabilization fixes are still required and hopefully the new Naza v2 firmware will remove some descent vibrations and other minor turbulance i got in some shots.
No shots were software stabilized.


https://vimeo.com/65596091

My setup:
TBS Discovery frame (modified for a front mount gimbal)
DJI arms
Pulso 2840/14 motors (oversized, will reduce to smaller soon)
Graupner 10x5 props
GotheliRC brushless gimbal (of course)
GotheliRC extension legs (modified and shortened for water landing)
GotheliRC extension motor arms
DJI Naza with GPS
Turnigy 5000 mAh 4S battery (now running the gimbal on the same power)

Boltzman


Boltzman..do you have any sample video's? ..did you make the gimbal yourself ?

malee
6th May 2013, 09:21 PM
Really cool video u got there!

bruce356
7th May 2013, 12:45 AM
Boltzman, this is really great, who would have believed one could produce such fantastically steady video on a TBS Discovery. You have done a really great job of filming, beautiful scenery.
Trappy time to design an incorporated front mounted brushless gimbal for the Discovery.
Regards - Bruce

Trappy
7th May 2013, 12:49 AM
Bruce ... that is so retro. We're still working on a foldable quad with tilt servo :)

Bluebird1500
7th May 2013, 07:28 AM
retro ?? Trappy , this is the future of cinema cameras and now we are watching the brushless Gimbal boards war :)

Trappy
7th May 2013, 07:31 AM
pfff. it's all hype. TBS is in no way ever going to do anything with brushless gimbals. total waste of time, money and resources. ok? :)

Bluebird1500
7th May 2013, 07:41 AM
Ok ... i believe, yore always one step ahead !! So, we are waiting for your super hyper TBS camera stabilizer ... ;)

Trappy
7th May 2013, 07:54 AM
;) maybe not one step ahead, but certainly not sleeping under a rock :) just some things are best to be kept secret until they are announced :)

gondoflier
7th May 2013, 01:34 PM
Botzman...beautiful shots :) what ESC's are you using with those motors? I have the same, and planing to use plush 30a, but am not sure if its a good option with pulso and naza?

drhanke
7th May 2013, 02:56 PM
Hey guys, designed just for the Discovery bolt on no mods at all to your Discovery comes with a mod for your FPV cam also... Designed just to make the Discovery complete :)

johansson939
7th May 2013, 03:24 PM
I demand pictures on how you did with you gimbal, legs etc.
Maybe not demand but, it would be nice to see how you have done. The video looks great.
What is your flying weight and flight time with that gimbal?

Regards
Hans Johansson


https://vimeo.com/65596091

My setup:
TBS Discovery frame (modified for a front mount gimbal)
DJI arms
Pulso 2840/14 motors (oversized, will reduce to smaller soon)
Graupner 10x5 props
GotheliRC brushless gimbal (of course)
GotheliRC extension legs (modified and shortened for water landing)
GotheliRC extension motor arms
DJI Naza with GPS
Turnigy 5000 mAh 4S battery (now running the gimbal on the same power)

Boltzman[/QUOTE]

Badlands
7th May 2013, 03:58 PM
I demand pictures on how you did with you gimbal, legs etc.
Maybe not demand but, it would be nice to see how you have done. The video looks great.
What is your flying weight and flight time with that gimbal?

Regards
Hans Johansson


https://vimeo.com/65596091

My setup:
TBS Discovery frame (modified for a front mount gimbal)
DJI arms
Pulso 2840/14 motors (oversized, will reduce to smaller soon)
Graupner 10x5 props
GotheliRC brushless gimbal (of course)
GotheliRC extension legs (modified and shortened for water landing)
GotheliRC extension motor arms
DJI Naza with GPS
Turnigy 5000 mAh 4S battery (now running the gimbal on the same power)

Boltzman[/QUOTE]


WOW & WOW again!

Very nice - now show us your rig!

:-)

Bluebird1500
7th May 2013, 07:58 PM
Let me guess ... TBS laser gimbal ;)

Toy4trax
7th May 2013, 11:04 PM
;) maybe not one step ahead, but certainly not sleeping under a rock :) just some things are best to be kept secret until they are announced :)

I don't know what you mean...

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Piccoloflyer
7th May 2013, 11:17 PM
Hey guys, designed just for the Discovery bolt on no mods at all to your Discovery comes with a mod for your FPV cam also... Designed just to make the Discovery complete :) All details how to mount, build tune and so on will be release later this week :) G-10 kits are available now, complete kits RTF are very low on stock but email for current stock.
More info later this week with videos etc. If you cant stand waiting contact "tim @ jugg.se"

Designed in Sweden by Tim.

any video and picture of your gimbal bolt on to the disco frame? so there is SPOT for FPV cam?

drhanke
8th May 2013, 01:20 AM
any video and picture of your gimbal bolt on to the disco frame? so there is SPOT for FPV cam?

Yes during the day :) Have to goto work first...

drhanke
8th May 2013, 08:53 AM
Pictures of the gimbal mounted.

pframon
8th May 2013, 10:30 AM
Really amazing, drhanke.
Btw, how much weight added?
Respect of the video switch, have you TBS cam? If yes, how you do for working with both GoPro and cam if the switch only works with cameras with same voltage?

malee
8th May 2013, 11:18 AM
Pictures of the gimbal mounted. More in the upcoming videos...

Wow! That 'toppings" on your disco frame is really busy! Is there anyway or enough space to give it much cleaner look? Im thinking of getting a front mount gimbal too..

punchy
9th May 2013, 03:27 AM
nice video... ok, so excuse this newbie question... so its a brushless gimbal, and the purpose to minimize the shaky video... so it automatically adjusts... but did you also have a manual TILT DOWN ability? noticed the nice straight down shots that tilted back to the horizon... really nice...

is this something thats able to do on all brushless gimbals? is this assigned to a channel on your radio? a rotary knob?

ALSO, how many channels do you need to assign on your radio for a set up like this?

thanks!

flitelab
9th May 2013, 08:58 AM
nice video... ok, so excuse this newbie question... so its a brushless gimbal, and the purpose to minimize the shaky video... so it automatically adjusts... but did you also have a manual TILT DOWN ability? noticed the nice straight down shots that tilted back to the horizon... really nice...

is this something thats able to do on all brushless gimbals? is this assigned to a channel on your radio? a rotary knob?

ALSO, how many channels do you need to assign on your radio for a set up like this?

thanks!

Yes the brushless gimbal controllers support manual control of pitch and roll, would require 1 channel for each. Can be used on a knob or with hard offset amounts set via switch.

drhanke
10th May 2013, 02:57 AM
A little demo of the brushless gimbal.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSUKiqUkV1A

ulkar
10th May 2013, 02:22 PM
Do you mind to share your settings for when I get the kit? Thanks

hjscm
10th May 2013, 11:39 PM
where can i get one in the US. been fighting vibes and would love to play with this.

hjscm
10th May 2013, 11:55 PM
where can i get one in the US. been fighting vibes and would love to play with this.

Piccoloflyer
11th May 2013, 12:43 AM
rctimer gimbal mod for the TBS disco + martinez V3 controller, total cost $135, result, very smooth, but still bit vibration.

this morning's test fly, still small vibration


https://vimeo.com/65946558

hjscm
11th May 2013, 09:59 AM
where do i send the money. looks great

punchy
11th May 2013, 03:26 PM
is there a way to PIGGY BACK a little kx2 or your FPV cam to the top of a gopro? this way when you pan/tilt you can see the same shot and know what youre shooting. Someone should make a mount for this type of application.

jonsky7
11th May 2013, 04:25 PM
Sorry for late reply, here comes some test shots with the GotheliRC gimbal on my TBS Discovery. It's a super compact design that I can fit into a backpack.
Shots starting from 00:34. Sorry for the lens scratch on some shots, had crash..
Som yaw stabilization fixes are still required and hopefully the new Naza v2 firmware will remove some descent vibrations and other minor turbulance i got in some shots.
No shots were software stabilized.


https://vimeo.com/65596091

My setup:
TBS Discovery frame (modified for a front mount gimbal)
DJI arms
Pulso 2840/14 motors (oversized, will reduce to smaller soon)
Graupner 10x5 props
GotheliRC brushless gimbal (of course)
GotheliRC extension legs (modified and shortened for water landing)
GotheliRC extension motor arms
DJI Naza with GPS
Turnigy 5000 mAh 4S battery (now running the gimbal on the same power)

Boltzman

Really nice video, that's a truly stunning part of the world.

stubbed
11th May 2013, 07:07 PM
is there a way to PIGGY BACK a little kx2 or your FPV cam to the top of a gopro? this way when you pan/tilt you can see the same shot and know what youre shooting. Someone should make a mount for this type of application.

You really need to think carefully about what sort of flying you're going to be doing before sticking your FPV cam anywhere on the gimbal. You generally need to be able to see the angle of attack when flying, which the gimbal is trying to combat. Only ever looking directly at the horizon would certainly end in crashes!

I'd suggest you would be better off looking at installing some sort of camera switching system like this (http://www.multiwiicopter.com/products/rccc-video-switch) (along with this (http://www.multiwiicopter.com/products/gopro-3-fpv-video-cable) or this (http://www.multiwiicopter.com/products/gopro-video-out-1-2), depending on what GoPro you have). Would give you better and safer results and at pretty minimal cost...

Piccoloflyer
12th May 2013, 12:38 AM
where do i send the money. looks great

Gimbal brought from rctimer $99
Martinez V3 controller from whitspayquad $35

gondoflier
12th May 2013, 12:29 PM
Boltzman ( or anybody ), can you tell me which Motor wire connects with which ESC wire ? Motors are same like yours, 25721pulso X2820/14 and esc 30a Plush turnigy. Or point me to a thread where I can ask http://static.rcgroups.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

kclements
12th May 2013, 02:13 PM
gondoflier

It does not matter which of the 3 esc wires are hooked up in relation to the 3 wires on the motor. If you find after it is hooked up that it is running the wrong direction, just switch any (2) of the 3 wires.

zemike
12th May 2013, 04:26 PM
Is it just me, or is there more people think it is a crime a gimbal in a TBS discovery?

bourney
12th May 2013, 04:44 PM
rctimer gimbal mod for the TBS disco + martinez V3 controller, total cost $135, result, very smooth, but still bit vibration.

this morning's test fly, still small vibration


https://vimeo.com/65946558

can Naza drive this gimbal?

ulkar
13th May 2013, 05:02 AM
Those gimbals can't be driven by the naza, it's powered by brushless motors and brushless motors can't just take a pwm type signal, they need an esc in between

Skymotion
13th May 2013, 05:08 AM
Those gimbals can't be driven by the naza, it's powered by brushless motors and brushless motors can't just take a pwm type signal, they need an esc in between

False dude.
ESC isn't useful for a gimbal motor, just an interfacing card that manage all signal: alexmos or martines or chinese style. then you connect these cards to Naza input

ulkar
13th May 2013, 05:09 AM
Yeah this was to schematize, but those cards reproduce the behaviour of 2 escs sending power to the motor, but that's still the reason why they can't be directly driven by the naza, it's like trying to plug your brushless motors straight to the channels of the naza

daggad
13th May 2013, 05:11 AM
What is the point of the Naza controlling the Brushless gimbal ?

ulkar
13th May 2013, 05:20 AM
None, the alexmos or martinez or chinese copy does it

punchy
13th May 2013, 12:13 PM
You generally need to be able to see the angle of attack when flying, which the gimbal is trying to combat. Only ever looking directly at the horizon would certainly end in crashes! I'd suggest you would be better off looking at installing some sort of camera switching system like this (http://www.multiwiicopter.com/products/rccc-video-switch) (along with this (http://www.multiwiicopter.com/products/gopro-3-fpv-video-cable) or this (http://www.multiwiicopter.com/products/gopro-video-out-1-2), depending on what GoPro you have). Would give you better and safer results


good points! thanks for the info on the switch! I guess when doing a coordinated shot- from looking down and then panning up horizontal, or following an object, the switch would be perfect. Switch to see live GoPro feed on the gimbal to make sure you got the shot, then switch back to reg FPV mini cam for accurate navigation.

jugg
14th May 2013, 04:36 AM
U might allready found this?

http://fpvlab.com/forums/showthread.php?15902-Brushless-Gimbal-for-your-TBS-Discovery

Bluebird1500
25th May 2013, 05:13 AM
Heres my mastor gimbal test with discovery, need more adjustments


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQM1G2Jr5Ao"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQM1G2Jr5Ao

nitrouspete
25th May 2013, 07:41 PM
bluebird1500, nice video. Can you take a picture of the set-up. Thinking of doing the same. Thanks.

Travis Harris
25th May 2013, 10:35 PM
Hey guys, designed just for the Discovery bolt on no mods at all to your Discovery comes with a mod for your FPV cam also... Designed just to make the Discovery complete :) All details how to mount, build tune and so on will be release later this week :) G-10 kits are available now, complete kits RTF are very low on stock but email for current stock.
More info later this week with videos etc. If you cant stand waiting contact "tim @ jugg.se"

Designed in Sweden by Tim.

Hey guys! This looks like a fantastic plug and play setup for my disco! Where can I place an order?

Also, the power lead for this... Can I just solder this to my lower power board? I use 4s.

Thanks!

Bluebird1500
26th May 2013, 03:43 AM
bluebird1500, nice video. Can you take a picture of the set-up. Thinking of doing the same. Thanks.

Thanks nitrouspete, in this vid im using the maxtor g gimbal (from foxtech) but for now i advise you to use the alexmos controller, its better !!

the other stuff, you can see the pics here, i bought from them (RC-Works) https://www.facebook.com/RCWorkscom?fref=ts

jugg
26th May 2013, 12:35 PM
Hey guys! This looks like a fantastic plug and play setup for my disco! Where can I place an order?

Also, the power lead for this... Can I just solder this to my lower power board? I use 4s.

Thanks!

U just send me an email and i put u in line for one.

The kit is without motor and controller.
but i can prowide a plug n fly, but i will cost much more.

Mail: tim at jugg .se
// Tim

jonsky7
26th May 2013, 12:43 PM
U just send me an email and i put u in line for one.

The kit is without motor and controller.
but i can prowide a plug n fly, but i will cost much more.

Mail: tim at jugg .se
// Tim


How much for plug and fly Tim?

Cheers

Travis Harris
26th May 2013, 12:45 PM
Okay great.. emailing now..

Travis Harris
26th May 2013, 12:50 PM
Also, is there instructions on how to install this on the Discovery? I am wondering what mods are needed if any to the frame?

jugg
26th May 2013, 02:49 PM
No mods needed... look at these videos.

http://fpvlab.com/forums/showthread....-TBS-Discovery

// Tim

Travis Harris
26th May 2013, 07:50 PM
No mods needed... look at these videos.

http://fpvlab.com/forums/showthread....-TBS-Discovery

// Tim

Thank Tim.. excited to see the link, but for now it says 404 "Not found".. please repost.

jugg
26th May 2013, 11:40 PM
http://fpvlab.com/forums/showthread.php?15902-Brushless-Gimbal-for-your-TBS-Discovery

Efti
27th May 2013, 06:44 PM
Here is my TBS "Loaded" Discovery with brushless gimbal.
First testing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjGrzkxMWIE&feature=youtu.be

ulkar
28th May 2013, 06:03 PM
Ok here is how I mounted everything :

http://s14.postimg.org/3llxleaml/IMG_20130528_222807.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/3llxleaml/)

http://s14.postimg.org/h18yauj4d/IMG_20130528_222838.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/h18yauj4d/)

http://s14.postimg.org/yd4pijn7x/IMG_20130528_222846.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/yd4pijn7x/)

You can see in the first picture my CC3D controller and above it upside down the alexmos controller. The red and green wires are supplying power to the alexmos through header pins so I can easily unmount the top plate without having to unsolder anything

stanleyy
8th June 2013, 09:58 AM
good news, vibration dampers from Ecilop seem to work very well! I will hopefully post some video in the evening.. It was really a major improvement compared to my previous tests with the stock foam and moon gel!

Travis Harris
8th June 2013, 11:44 PM
good news, vibration dampers from Ecilop seem to work very well! I will hopefully post some video in the evening.. It was really a major improvement compared to my previous tests with the stock foam and moon gel!

Excited to see more video :-)

stanleyy
9th June 2013, 04:19 AM
here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddzft4kbYAQ&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddzft4kbYAQ&feature=youtu.be)

This was not focused on overall stabilization quality - I had too low I value, so the horizon on roll axis is drifting a lot... but the jello from my previous tests is almost completely gone..

Travis Harris
9th June 2013, 08:28 AM
here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddzft4kbYAQ&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddzft4kbYAQ&feature=youtu.be)

This was not focused on overall stabilization quality - I had too low I value, so the horizon on roll axis is drifting a lot... but the jello from my previous tests is almost completely gone..

Very impressive! So what's your setup on the discovery? Also, what material did you use to get rid of jello?

stanleyy
9th June 2013, 11:12 AM
hi, I am using "ecilop vibration dampers" from my Ecilop frame, you can order them here:
http://ecilop.tv/shop/ecilop_easy_parts.phtml
(just look for dampers)

The gimbal is from guy called Tim, you can find more about it in this discussion:
http://fpvlab.com/forums/showthread.php?15902-Brushless-Gimbal-for-your-TBS-Discovery

I am using Alexmos firmware version 1.3, motors are those nice 2208 from Flyduino (http://flyduino.net/Flyduino-G2208-018mm-80-Turns-Motor-for-Alex-Mos-Gimbal),
camera is Gopro 3 Black Edition + Layer Lens for protection (I had to put 1 piece of 9 gram lead weight to the back of camera to keep it balanced).

This system works great, I am very happy with it - after all those long years I have finally found a great FPV machine...

madgolfer90
9th June 2013, 12:50 PM
hi stanleyy, was the gimbal difficult to set up? how much did it cost you?

stanleyy
9th June 2013, 12:55 PM
the gimbal is not expensive, but you need to write to tim (tim@jugg.se), as he is making them privately and he can tell you the price..
Then of course you need the controller and two motors...
Setup is as difficult/easy as with any other gimbal - you need to tune the PID, reduce vibrations from your motors/propellers and make a few test flights to fine tune everything.
I am still fighting with vibrations during fast forward flights, I will posts some videos from today where this is visible...

Danielgarate77
9th June 2013, 12:58 PM
hi Tim

i just sent you a few emails, please i would like a Plug n Play...

thanks for your time


U just send me an email and i put u in line for one.

The kit is without motor and controller.
but i can prowide a plug n fly, but i will cost much more.

Mail: tim at jugg .se
// Tim

Travis Harris
9th June 2013, 07:35 PM
hi Tim

i just sent you a few emails, please i would like a Plug n Play...

thanks for your time

It's about $540 USD plug and play. :-)

hojotour
10th June 2013, 05:59 PM
the gimbal is not expensive, but you need to write to tim (tim@jugg.se), as he is making them privately and he can tell you the price..
Then of course you need the controller and two motors...
Setup is as difficult/easy as with any other gimbal - you need to tune the PID, reduce vibrations from your motors/propellers and make a few test flights to fine tune everything.
I am still fighting with vibrations during fast forward flights, I will posts some videos from today where this is visible...

Hi stanleyy,

I am using the same Gimbal from Tim on my disco.
Could you share your settings (screenshot) of your settings?
At the moment I also try to get rid of the vibrations and try to fine tune the gimbal settings.

Thanks
Hojotour

stanleyy
10th June 2013, 06:15 PM
hm, this gimbal was for the easiest one to setup (I have 2 others for NEX-5). It really works with wide range of settings - I don't have the discovery here, so I can't check those values - but try to set the power to about 80 for both channels, set 14 as the number of poles, and slowly increase P value for roll. if it starts to shake slowly, increase D value until the shake disappears. Then you can add a bit of I so the gimbal can find the absolute value.
Do the same for pitch axis later. This gimbal is REALLY very well made and if you use 2208 motors, you should have no problems - they are strong enough for gopro.
I think my P for roll was about 10, I about 0.9 - 0.11 and D was quite low, 3 or 4 (but this is from my head only...)

It is anyway not difficult at all to get it done. Just make sure it doesn't shake or oscillate - turn the gimbal in your hand, check the stabilization, use the arrows from GUI to see the angle error. If you can't get rid of oscillations no matter what you are doing, then there must be some hardware issue (motors, IMU not attached properly, oscillations from the frame)

Piccoloflyer
11th June 2013, 08:58 PM
redesign my rctimer gimbal mount to my TBS disco using 4 rubber dumpers, and change my controller to Alexmos, this time much smoother and jello free, see video below

http://vimeo.com/68139118

hojotour
17th June 2013, 05:56 AM
The gimbal is realy perfect and the configuration is also not so difficult but I have a small problem on the Roll axis.
When I fly slowly everthing is perfect but as soon as I fly a little bit to fast I can see some nick in Roll axis. It is relay like a short shaking and then it stops again but is coming back until I fly slow or when I will stay in the air.
I played arround in my settings but I can't find a solution.
The same problem I have when it is windy. It is only on the Roll axis.
Does anybody have the same and could get rif of it and can share the solution?

SithX
1st July 2013, 12:37 PM
http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/482274/Imagenes%20Web/Equipos%20RTF/TBS/DSC_0073.JPG it is my ^^

SithX
1st July 2013, 07:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaFDXXuo3s8

ulkar
2nd July 2013, 04:04 AM
Late shot yesterday arround 10:20pm.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKhwDUL42pU

You can see I'm losing horizon on the roll axis at some points, I don't really know why but I think it might be because the voltage changes between the moment the battery is full and the battery is empty. Maybe I should use the core to provide 12v continuous to the gimbal

Let me know if you have any idea

PeepsDayz
2nd July 2013, 08:01 AM
redesign my rctimer gimbal mount to my TBS disco using 4 rubber dumpers, and change my controller to Alexmos, this time much smoother and jello free, see video below

http://vimeo.com/68139118

This is excellent, thanks for sharing!

PNEU
2nd July 2013, 09:40 AM
1st footage with my new gimbal:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6as08X1pW_Y

ssbrealty
3rd July 2013, 10:46 PM
Nice Setup !!
May I know the GIMBAL from TBS ? If NOT, where to buy?
Any Custom modification required to fit on TBS Discovery Frame ?

Your sharing is much appreciated !
Cheers.

ulkar
4th July 2013, 04:14 AM
Who are you asking that too?

ssbrealty
4th July 2013, 04:21 AM
http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/482274/Imagenes%20Web/Equipos%20RTF/TBS/DSC_0073.JPG it is my ^^

Nice Setup !!
May I know the GIMBAL from TBS ? If NOT, where to buy?
Any Custom modification required to fit on TBS Discovery Frame ?

Your sharing is much appreciated !
Cheers.

ssbrealty
4th July 2013, 04:24 AM
Who are you asking that too?

Opp..... Actually I am asking the Setup of "SithX" TBS with the Brushless Gimbal in front with GoPro.
Thanks.


http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/482274/Imagenes%20Web/Equipos%20RTF/TBS/DSC_0073.JPG it is my ^^

sanderx
4th July 2013, 07:08 AM
It's called the tbs discovery pro and can be bought at teamblacksheep.com....with the gimbal it comes with the top and bottom plate and the tbs core....you have to wait for batch no 2 though....

ulkar
4th July 2013, 07:23 AM
no this is not the discovery pro this thread is for people who adapt or build gimbals for their normal tbs discovery

ssbrealty
4th July 2013, 08:29 AM
no this is not the discovery pro this thread is for people who adapt or build gimbals for their normal tbs discovery

Many Thanks Ulkar.
Since then, WHAT is the GIMBAL MODEL & where to buy it for the Normal TBS Discovery Frame ?
AND anyone know the Gimbal Width, whether able to FIT eg NEX ?

ulkar
4th July 2013, 08:33 AM
it's not a model I guess he built it himself to adapt to the discovery as I did with my gimbal, I'll post a picture tonight. Mine has got silent blocs to isolate the mount from the frame and reduce vibrations

ssbrealty
4th July 2013, 08:36 AM
it's not a model I guess he built it himself to adapt to the discovery as I did with my gimbal, I'll post a picture tonight. Mine has got silent blocs to isolate the mount from the frame and reduce vibrations

Appreciate it & looking forward to see yours later.
Meanwhile, Glad if you able to guide to ORDER/BUILD ONE as yours to FIT on my normal TBS Frame soon.

Great if you able to share me one of your Flight Video Clip which show the Stabilization of the VIDEO. Cheers !
Have a Nice Day !

ulkar
4th July 2013, 08:39 AM
Well mine is part of the one that was sold by tim and part of what I imagined myself, I have less vibrations since I replace the mount from his kit but still it vibrates in high speeds because the gopro is only held from one side, so I'm planning to make the full gimbal 3D printed (currently only the mount to the disco is 3d printed) and then It should be perfect

ulkar
4th July 2013, 08:40 AM
here's a short clip of footage I made this weekend


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AyNHWkO6zI

SithX
4th July 2013, 07:00 PM
The price is € 350 carbon is to do a cut and cut red separator. I carry prop 12, I have 8.50min for total 2.5kg with gopro.
If you could take parts in build, takes silent blocks to isolate vibrations. Even be improved kit includes motors.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEbZZczxNb0

Lioon
24th November 2013, 02:09 PM
I made this one: http://fpvlab.com/forums/showthread.php?18117-3d-printed-brushless-gimbal&p=381726&viewfull=1#post381726