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    Darker's Eagletree FPV Bixler Skysurfer

    This is build log of my second bixler/skysurfer and it is my first build log. My initial goal was construct a FPV bixler and integrate eagletree gear into one package without having to glue electronics to the inside of the frame, which I've always felt looked sloppy and prone to in-flight disconnects. As of now, this is my most advanced bird yet and I learned a ton of new stuff. Originally it was intended as a pod type design, but eventually it became build in.

    The first thing I did on this project was I looked into the concept of trying to create laser cut parts due to one of my friends having a laser cutter at his office. My idea was that having had several nightmares with the current generation of wooden mount kits it would be nice to try using laser cut acrylic instead. Towards this end I had the parts pictured below manufactured. Conceptually, what I wanted to do was create a removal mount kit so I could change batteries and service the pod.



    After two months and many awkward "is it done yet?" calls to my friend. I finally got the laser cut parts. A note to everyone. Holes cut by laser cutters are not always round. This is just the nature of using a somewhat low quality machine.

    After that, I attempted a rough install in my bixler hull. It's standing up properly because I press-fit rare earth magnets into the holes on the center, which I had previously designed to be over the canopy magnets.




    I proceeded with this design for a few days and then after running into a stalemate situation with the shear volume of eagletree hardware, as picture below illustrates, it became necessary to consider building in, and throwing any hopes of a pod completely out the window. For reference that is two of the units I needed mounted (Data logger and OSD) out of a total of five units (Data Logger, OSD, Receiver, BEC, and Guardian Stabilizer. This would of course cause problems with charging the battery and accessing the data logger, but I figured that these could be dealt with over time.



    With the decision made to mount everything on a shelf and abandoning the guts of the bixer to no more tinkering I built a much larger electronics shelf as pictured below. I also discovered that using plastic nuts on the ends of each of the screws that I was using to hold the layers together gave the electronics shelf a great deal more stability.



    Completing that task the electronics were then installed. I was forced to make a single violation of my "no cutting the fuselage rule to install a switch because the battery would now have to be glued into the craft.



    I also built an bay for the for the ESC and the GPS at the standard positions using the same acrylic. Once you violate the fuselage once it felt easier the next two times. Conceptually the GPS benefits from being a away from any transmission source and the ESC is less likely to overheat and probably more efficient in a constant air flow. I also put in one of the ready made RC bixler/skysurfer motor mounts.



    With this complete I dropped in a 11.1V 2200mAH battery and balanced it with respect to the CG then hot glued it into place. In order to facilitate charging I extended the Lipo Battery lead out of the canopy. I also fabricated a cable to to the data logger going out. This would allow me to hook into my USB when on the ground without opening the frame.



    Final Diagram



    Final Plane


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    Wings... Just simple! Derrick's Avatar
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    Very cool idea... is the flight battery removable? looks like it is stuck in there and you "recharge your plane".

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    wow looks pretty cool.
    you sure put alot of effort into this.
    can i ask the battery will come in and out?
    or wont it?
    elf.

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    The flight battery is non-removable at this point. I just ran the charging cable up behind the camera and when I want to charge it I just plug it in. I just never had a good way of having the flight battery stick in one place in Mark 1 and it caused all kinds of problems the hot glue can be cut out in an emergency.

    EDIT - I also checked if this was going to cause issues with charging, and allegedly as long as it is a fairly shot extension you are fine.

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    I have seen some people cut access hatches into the side of the fuselage... this might be a good option if you want more than one flight per hourish.

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    The whole concept of this build was to avoid violating the hull of the bixler. I now after having some issues with cheap eflite charger was forced to cut a hatch. This should never have happened, but eflite sucks. This would not be a problem if you had a better a charger than the one i wanted to use. I just didn't want to violate the hull integrity. Also, if you guys want flight data I have a set of ET logs for the craft.
    Last edited by Darker4308; 4th June 2012 at 07:12 PM.

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    The biggest issue I see here is integrity of the electronics on crash... the nose usually breaks off about where the canopy open starts, or meats up with the wing area... That puts your electronics on the front line of an impact.

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    It did actually split during a crash at the point between the the canopy and the servos and the crack continued along the bottom. That is sort one the bixler / skysurfer crumple zones. I consider the body to be a bit disposable honestly. The electronics are fine as long as there isn't an upside down landing and even then they are protected by what will remain of the foam. The whole thing is more of a pet project to see what the cheapest plane best plane i can cram good gear into. I'm rough on my planes.

    If you guys can think of a better way to immobilize a battery i'm all attention. Velcro has never worked or foam painters tape. The only think i can think of a is a screw in battery pod.
    Last edited by Darker4308; 4th June 2012 at 08:18 PM.

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    The crash killed the receiver.

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