I'm sorry. I have seen the problem that Hatch had with the receiver. I am a ReadymadeRC fan for sure. I buy most of my equipment from RMRC. I can verify that hatch knows how to setup a ground station. He knows video more than 85% of FPV pilots out there. I have witnessed the problems that he is having. Maybe he got a bad unit, who knows but I know it was a very real problem. Stop busting his balls.
How is McCleary busting his balls? Looks like a really helpful post showing that the receiver is fine and something else must have been causing the problem. Why so defensive?
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they arent busting my balls lol. they are just proving a point that the receiver isnt a problem. maybe my antennas are so bad that i need a crappy receiver to be able to receive the off-band signal. the hobbyking receiver is more forgiving than the readymade saw filter upgraded receiver. if i didnt match the impedance then i will have the problems mentioned.
im sorry if it's my fault. i'm in north carolina drunk off my ass right now with both doug and don lol. i flew the quad today with the hobbyking receiver through 3 houses and it worked fine. my goal with the new receiver wasnt flying through objects though. i got a new plane and i wanted to go further than i can with the hobbykng receiver without objects in the way. that did no happen when i tested it with the swift. both don and doug were there when that happened. i had a black screen half the time. i threw out that antenna because i thought it was bad but i built another to ibcrazy specs and it happened again. i'm using that new one to make the videos i took today.
i'm not trying to be a bad customer, seriously. i would have been very glad to keep the saw filter RX when i only paid for the regular receiver. i'm glad you got 13km or whateve with the rx i returned. i must have a bunch of bad antennas, including the stock whip that came with the rx.
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the part i don't get is that i hooked the rx up to a readymade 1280 rx and i still had the problem
dude honestly i just want my video to be reliable in most situations. this has been way overblown, maybe i thought i was catching on to something when others with new 1258 receivers said they had problems. i'm not here to cause serious trouble lol, ive got better things to do
This guy took a returned rx and took a picture of it and then posted a video of himself flying. He didn't show himself hooking it up and he didnt prove that he was flying with the same RX!? You really want to treat a customer like that? He obviously had a problem with the RX. Remember, I have 12 RMRC receivers on 3 frequencies. I am no RMRC slammer. His video didn't really show shit. Hatch is my boy and I can tell you that this RX was causing problems. I have only returned one item to RMRC over the years. He gave me the RX to test and it sucked donkey sack. If this is what RMRC does with returned shit then I guess I will start buying my shit somewhere else.Originally Posted by volto
Tim just wanted to find out what was wrong with the receiver so maybe he could avoid the problem in the future, I think that's pretty good of him to have McCleary look into it. What would you have him do, trash it and ignore the possibility of a problem? I don't get it. I know chatch has skills and fpv technical knowledge superior to most, that just makes this problem more of a mystery.
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I did not post the results of my testing to "show someone up" or anything like that. I sincerely wanted to help try and figure what was causing the issue. As far as just posting a video of me flying, you can believe what you want. If it helps, I guess I could do a video of me hooking it up and flying and showing it uncut, but that wont help solve the issue.
I actually tested a second, digital Rx in the flight before this one and could only get 1000ft before severe interference. I wouldn't have bothered to post the video for this one if i wasn't so surprised by the results.
Seriously guys, no ill intentions or government cover-ups here.
There was a problem, it's resolved, move on...
Hey guys,
As Kevin had mentioned, I gave him a couple receivers to test out that were returned. I was surprised about the results with this receiver as well, and we discussed if posting a video was a good idea. We both agreed that we didn't want to come off as trying to be "defensive" or, I suppose, to "bust his balls", but I really wanted to get to the bottom of why our results were so different.
I'm not sure people understand how much the interaction of all the individual components in can affect the final video quality. I've had systems that looked like they had horrible range when viewing them in one monitor, but the exact same picture viewed simultaneously in a different display was totally clear. The "interference" in that case was the monitors/goggles's inability to deal with the particular video signal. I have no idea if that is what was going on here, but we would love to figure out so it can help us troubleshoot this type of thing in the future.
There are many things in the chain of equipment that can affect the video levels and signal enough to cause some odd problems. Camera, OSD, transmitter, receiver, video splitters/diversity, monitor/goggles, cables, power supplies. Everything interacts, everything affects the overall picture quality, and that's just what can affect the video signal itself. The wireless signals can also be affected by a huge number of things, too long to list here.
The biggest culprits to video issues are usually OSD's (particularly the cheap ones that "tap in" to the video line rather than matching the impedance properly and passing it through, and some of the cheap OSD's that just implement the video circuitry incorrectly), camera/osd/transmitter combos that throw off video levels, receivers that behave strangely when hooked to different displays (Lawmate's are horrible for this, if the impedance isn't dead on with the video display, the receiver may decide to pick up a totally different frequency than what it's set to). I've also seen specific transmitters not work well with specific receivers for no obvious reasons (everything measures properly when analyzed, and they work with other equipment, but they just don't work well with each other).
We really wanted to figure out what was going on with this setup. Not to put anyone in their place, but to figure out what was going on. Things like this drive me crazy and I want to know WHY the customer was seeing problems and we aren't.
If you guys want to help out by sharing information about the whole setup, then that will help us solve the "mystery". If not, it's really not a big deal as this seems to be one of those rare anomalies that we may never run in to again!
Tim
I couldn't agree more about little changes in the whole setup having a huge effect on how it all plays together! I haven't played with these 1258 tan receivers yet, but did get to test the early Digital ones. I was honestly not that impressed the first time I took off using one, my video was nasty! Once we figured out that it was my Dragon Link UHF hitting the receiver, and how to solve that, we were back in business. Until I got a mile or so out that is, and some strange pulsing noise was back. That one really confused me... It wasn't until another guy saw the SAME noise pattern in his video that we started narrowing it down to the DVR that we both used. Move the DVR a few more feet away and things were fine again. With all the little issues cleaned up, that same receiver that didn't impress me at the start, proved to outperform anything else I had here to test against, including a tan receiver and Lawmate. (both on 1280) My point is, there's so many critical things hidden away that we might not even realize, it's hard to blame one component when something doesn't go as expected. Seeing the receiver perform well in a different environment makes me think that it's ok, and I'd look towards some combination of gear in Chris' setup that doesn't play well with it. Personally I think Tim and Kevin did the right thing... Issued a refund then went a little farther in offering to help pinpoint the inital cause if Chris' issues. Just my opinion though...
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